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15/10/2024

“Karnei diatheke” (The new and last covenant/will of Father YHWH)

Interesting to note that after the Messiah, Father YHWH never again made any covenant with mankind. The last covenant’s commandments are the most attacked law that Father gave man and most today seek to change them with great effort, the catholics leading this onslaught. Interestingly
most of the 40000 different denominations and religious groups today follow the catholic’s to rather try to obey the old covenants commandments mixed with the new and thus changing both the old and new covenants by adding and deleting things as it pleases them. Both the old and new covenant remain the same till this earth pass away. The old covenant remain for those who are under it and the new remain for those who accept the Messiah and entered into the new covenant. Christians/believers in the Messiah thus must obey and keep the last/new covenant and the unrighteous remain under the old and will be judged by it if they do not accept the new and reject it.

The Messiah Yahshua(Jesus) said: Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. He also seconds later commanded this:Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

Just after the Messiah gave those two commandments He said this: Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. He then continued and said this: Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Seconds later the Messiah again mentioned the new command of John 13:34 and He said this: Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do what I command you.

Almost forty years later John again wrote about them in 1 John and said this: 1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.” By this time the new commandments were not new but almost forty years old but to some as is the case today it is new as John stated: 1Jn 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning. 1Jn 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

Th new covenant commandments are not grievous to obey for Father give this law of His in our hearts as is written: 1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his
commandments. 1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. Rom 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

What the Messiah commanded the church to obey is also the single greatest reason why Christians have been persecuted, murdered, torn apart, fought wild animals, burned alive etc.etc. Those who obeyed these commandments in the past paid dearly for their love of the Messiah and the new covenant commandments will be the reason why we will be persecuted till the end. Interestingly John noted this in the apocalyptic book of Revelation and said this about those who obey the new covenant
commandments: Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The body of Christ the Messiah Yahshua today have a great challenge to answer those who want to mislead them away from the grace covenant to a manmade mixture of both. The catholic’s have been leading this deception for ages and it’s become the number one reason why believers forsake the new covenant for their deception.

Stand strong my brothers and sister in the Messiah and keep the covenant you entered into with Father YHWH to death.

15/10/2024

Jesus rose on the first day of the week not the Sabbath: Mk 16:9
All 6 appearances of Jesus happen on two Sundays, none on Sabbath. Mk 16:9; Mt 28:5-9; Lk 24:34; Lk 24:13-15; Lk 24:33,36 + Jn 20:19; Jn 20:26
Christians are recorded assembling three times on Sunday after resurrection and before ascension, never on the Sabbath. Jn 20:19 Jn 20:26 Acts 2:1 (We do not claim that these were worship services, just the early starting point of Sunday gatherings)
The only time Christians are recorded to have assembled together was on a Sunday in Acts 20:7, never does it say the disciples assembled on the Sabbath.
The only day ever mentioned when Christians broke bread was on Sunday: Acts 20:7
Christians are commanded every Sunday to give into a common treasury of the church: 1 Cor 16:1-2
Jesus was declared the Son of God on Sunday: Rom 1:4
Ps 2:7 "Today I have begotten thee" was fulfilled on Sunday when he rose: Acts 13:33
The sign that Jesus was glorified was given on Sunday: Jn 7:39 + Acts 2:1,32
The church officially began on Pentecost Sunday: Acts 2:1
Jesus was crowned king on a Sunday: Acts 2:33-36
The disciples reception of the promise of the Father on Sunday: Acts 1:4-5; 2:1-4
The Holy Spirit first fell upon the apostles on a Sunday: Acts 2:1-4
Salvation first preached by Peter on Sunday: Mt 16:19; Acts 2:1,38,40-41
The Keys to the Kingdom of God were first used on Sunday: Mt 16:19
The great "Triumphal entry" (also called "Palm Sunday") happened on the first day: Luke 13:32
The time between the Lord's resurrection (sheaf waving day) and Pentecost was Sunday to Sunday counting of 50 days. The starting and stopping time was on the 1st day.
First time Jesus worshiped after resurrection was on the first day by Thomas (Jn. 20:26).
The first time we could be born again to a living hope was on a Sunday: 1 Pet. 1:3
The first time Jesus had communion after his resurrection with His disciples, was on a Sunday: (Lk. 24:1, 13, 28-35)
Pentecost was a Sunday - Sunday duration of 50 days. The starting point and stopping point of counting the 50 days was a Sunday - Sunday period!
While the Sabbath was significant to the Jews, there is no New Testament significance of the Sabbath in connection with anything of Christ, Christianity, the church or heaven!

123 Questions and Statements I would like to nail to the Seventh day Adventists and some Sabbatarian church doors. "When...
15/10/2024

123 Questions and Statements I would like to nail to the Seventh day Adventists and some Sabbatarian church doors. "When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest!" Amazing Facts about the Sabbath and other questions that Seventh day Adventists leaders and other Sabbath keepers do not want to be asked! Note that on each of these questions and statements we have a whole study available, with proof quotations from books and articles where applicable, that we gladly distribute freely if you would like to see it. SDA's Christians believe that the condition of gaining eternal life is obedience to the new covenant not the old covenant as you believe!!!. Yes we have more against the Sabbath keepers churches than the 97 against the Catholics. Try to answer the following Questions and statements with biblical proof please: 1. Why do you not keep that which you teach others to keep? For example the Ten Commandments. 2. SDA’s why do you always lie to people saying we never said you should keep the 10 commandments to inherit eternal life but still regard this as binding: Ellen G. White said this in the Advent Review and Sabbath Herald of 10-26-1897 :"...The terms of salvation for every son and daughter of Adam are here outlined. It is plainly stated that the condition of gaining eternal life is obedience to the (10) commandments of God" 3. SDA's if the man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty and I quote you:"The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty." -Ellen G. White (1903, ms 150, Seventh Day Adventist Bible Commentary V, p. 1129) then: 1. Why do Christians believe that the man Jesus Christ is the Lord God Almighty? 2. When did God change and lose His godliness? 3. How do you explain Mal.3:6 in the light of Jesus? 4. Explain Rev. 1:7 – 8 in the light of your statement? 5. Explain Isa.9:5-8? 5. Explain John 1:1-9? 7. What does the word Emmanuel mean? 8. Explain Isa. 43:10-12? 9. Explain Zac.12:10-11? 4. SDA's according to the Bible in 1 John. 2:18-22; 4:3 and 2 John1:7 the spirit of the antichrist will teach that God did not come in the flesh and you support this view by teaching that “The man Jesus Christ was not the Lord God Almighty” You clearly have a denial of Jesus being God in the flesh, thus you have that spirit of the antichrist in you. How do you explain this to members? 5. Why is it that your jesus does not have the same characteristics than the Jesus of the Christians. Read 2 Cor.11:4. 6. If every man from Adam to Moses kept the Sabbath, why is the Hebrew word for the weekly Sabbath [shabbâth]] found in the Ten Commandments, never found in the book of Genesis? Why is no one before Moses ever being told to keep the Sabbath [In +-2800 years from Adam to Moses not a single mention of the Sabbath]? Why are there no examples of anyone keeping the Sabbath for +-2800 years!!!!? ] 7. Why were the Patriarchs never instructed about the Sabbath, but were instructed regarding: offerings: Gen 4:3-4, Altars Gen 8:20, Priests: Gen 14:18, Tithes: Gen 14:20, Circumcision: Gen 17:10, Marriage: Gen 2:24 & Gen 34:9 etc. Why would God leave out the "all important" Sabbath command for +-2800 years? 8. When you ask me, "if the 10 commandments are “replaced”/abolished, does that mean we can steal?" Can I ask you, "when you travel from South Africa to Botswana, does that mean you can steal in Botswana? Is it possible that two completely different "codes of law" (Law of Moses and law of Christ) have similar laws just like South Africa and Botswana? 9. Do not make this statement “if Christians do not listen to the Law then they can steal murder and commit adultery right” . Rather ask this “IF CHRISTIANS DO NOT LISTEN TO THE LAW WHY IS IT THAT THEY STILL DO NOT STEAL MURDER OR COMMIT ADULTERY OR TEACH PEOLPLE TO DO SO ETC. ETC.?” Read your Bible Rom. 6:14 - 16 10. If the fact that God wrote the 10 commandments on stone proves they are forever, why is Moses the first one to see a stone tablet written by the finger of God? 11. Why is the weekly Sabbath commandment never quoted in the New covenant/Testament? 12. Why is the Sabbath the only one of the Ten Commandments that are said to be "throughout YOUR generations", the usual phrase that indicates it was a temporary ceremonial law only for ISRAEL? Are you all Israelites? 13. Why is there no example in the Bible of exclusively Christians coming together on the Sabbath day as a church or prayer meeting after the resurrection of Christ? 14. Why is there no command in the New Covenant/Testament for Christians to keep the Sabbath “holy”? 15. While Paul taught in the synagogues up to 84 times, why does the Bible never say he kept the Sabbath? 16. If Paul's action of preaching to non-believers 84+ times in the book of Acts on the Sabbath makes him a Sabbath keeper, is a Seventh-day Adventist pastor a Sunday keeper if we invite him for 84 Sundays in a row to teach us about God's word? It was Paul's custom to reach out on the Sabbath wasn't it? 17. How could Adam, Noah and Abraham keep the Sabbath, when Deuteronomy 5:2-4 says that the 10 commandments covenant was not made with any of the fathers of Israel who lived before Moses. 18. If we must follow the example of Jesus in all things like keeping the Sabbath, then why do Sabbatarians not follow the example of Jesus in circumcision, animal sacrifices, keeping Passover and quit going to the synagogue (church) on the Sabbath, like Jesus did? 19. Why did the apostle Peter not listen and live according to the law after Jesus's resurrection but lived like gentiles who did not keep, nor had, the law? Gal. 2:14 – 19. 20. If the Sabbath was for Gentiles and Adam, Noah and Abraham, then why is the Sabbath a sign to remind Israel of their exodus from Egypt? Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:13-18. Was either Abraham or his sons or their sons or Seventh-day Adventists or Christians ever slaves in Egypt? 21. If the Sabbath law is still in force, then why do you not stone people or members when they break the Sabbath? God instructs you to do so? Read: Exodus 35:1-3; Look at James 2:10 also. 22. Sda's Ellen G. White, who is considered inspired by Seventh-day Adventists, said that God showed her that the Pope changed the Sabbath in 321 AD. Why do most Adventists today reject their inspired prophet and say the change of the Sabbath occurred in 140 AD (Samuel Bacchiochi) or some in 364 AD (Andrews)? If White was wrong about this, was she wrong when she travelled to heaven and saw the 4th commandment glowing brighter than all the rest? 23. Sda's if the current position of the Seventh-day Adventist church is that the change from Saturday to Sunday took place in 140 AD[Samuel Bacchiochi], doesn't that mean that you have come a long way from Ellen Whites 321 AD and have only 40 more years to travel to reach the truth of the Apostolic age? 24. If the change from Saturday to Sunday happened, why is there absolutely no discussion of this change of the actual day for the first 600 years of church history? Merely calling Sunday the Sabbath doesn't count! 25. If Sda's reject White's inspiration, that Constantine changed the Sabbath day to Sunday, why do you keep bringing Constantine up as proof? If Constantine changed the Sabbath to Sunday, why does he merely legislate that work must stop on Sunday with no actual mention of the day being moved? Plus he said that people can work if they have to, like on farms which is not like the Sabbath. 26. If the first/old covenant was replaced for believers according to Heb 7:12 & 8:13 and the Ten commandment law was that first/old covenant (Ex 34:27-28; 1 Kings 8:9,21; Heb 9:1-4; Deut 5:2-3), then why do Sabbatarians want to keep the first/old covenant? 27. Why is the universal record of history (75-500AD) 100% in unanimous agreement that Christians never kept the Sabbath (7th day) and have always worshipped on Sunday? 28. Why is the universal record of history (75-500AD) 100% in unanimous agreement that Christians ate the Lord's Supper every Sunday in the tradition of Acts 20:7? 29. Why is the universal record of history (75-500AD) 100% in unanimous agreement that Christians always called Sunday the Lord's Day because, they said, this was the day Jesus rose from the dead? 30. Why don’t Sabbatarian teachers like to produce even one historical quote (75-500AD) that says evangelical Christians didn't keep the Sabbath? 31. If the Sabbath is not a ceremonial law, then why is it lumped into the same identical class of "holy convocations" as the rest of the Jewish feast days in Lev 23:2; Ex 20:9; 31:17 ? 32. If the 10 commandments remain but the book of the Law of Moses was blotted out, then why did God put two copies of the 10 commandments in the book of the Law of Moses? Ex 20; Deut 5. Is God telling old covenant keepers twice that it is blotted out? 33. How can there possibly be a difference between "the law of God" and the "Law of Moses" when God gave the Law of Moses according to (Ezra 7:6; Neh. 8:1) and Moses gave the Law of God according to (Neh. 10:29; 2 Chron. 34:14)? 34. If there is a distinction between the moral and ceremonial laws, why are the Jewish feast days called part of the Law of the Lord? (2 Chron. 31:3) 35. If there is a distinction between the moral and ceremonial laws, why in a single chapter of Nehemiah 8 are the following phrases all used interchangeably: "book of the law of Moses" v1, "the law" v2, "book of the law" v3, "the law of God" v8, "book of the law of God" v18? 36. Why are the two most important commandments contained within the ceremonial Law of Moses that according to most Sabbatarians was nailed (blotted out) on the cross? (Matthew 22:36-40; Deut.6:5; Lev.19:18) 37. Why did Jesus say Moses gave the 10 commandment law: "Thou shalt not kill" in John 7:19 Didn't Jesus know the difference between moral and ceremonial.? The only answer is He saw it all as the law! 38. If the Sabbath cannot change, because God cannot change (Mal 3:6) then what about all the other feast days and laws that changed? Heb 7:12. And why did Yahshua [Jesus ] give "a new commandment" in John 13:34 if it was old, is He lying, I don’t think so? 39. If the Ten Commandments are going to be in heaven, what is the use of "thou shalt not commit adultery", if there is no marriage in heaven? Luke 20:34-35 40. If the Sabbath was given to all men, why were Gentiles called "strangers" of the covenant. Why were Gentiles outside the gates not required to keep the Sabbath? Ex 20:10. God would not give permission for sin would He? 41. How could the Sabbath be a sign between God and Israel if, according to Sabbath keepers, all nations were to keep it? Ex 31:17 42. Why did God send the Jews into Babylonian Captivity for breaking the Sabbath, but never ever criticized any Gentiles for never keeping the Sabbath? 43. Why did God often criticize the Gentiles via the prophets for moral violations, but never for not keeping the Sabbath? 44. If the Gentiles were supposed to keep the Sabbath, why are they called "strangers of the Covenant" in Eph 2:12? 45. If the term, "the law" always means the 10 commandments, then why is Leviticus called "The Law" in Mt 22:35, Numbers called "The Law" in Mt 12:5, Deuteronomy called "The Law" in Mt 22:35, Psalms called "The Law" in John 10:34,45, Rom 3:10-12; 3:13-14,19, the Prophets called "The Law" in 1 Cor. 14:21 and the Ten Commandments are called "The Law" that is replaced in Rom 7:1-7? 46. If the term "commandments" always means the 10 commandments, then why are the law that are not part of the Ten Commandments but called commandments in Mt 19:16-19 not also included? 47. If the term "commandments" always means the 10 commandments, then why did Paul call the injunction for prophets wives to keep silent in the assemblies, a "commandment of the Lord" in 1 Cor. 14:37? 48. If the term "keep my commandments" always means the 10 commandments, then why is this called a new commandment by Jesus? John 15:10-12 + John 13:34. 49. If only the Ten Commandments are going to endure until heaven and earth pass away, why did Jesus say the law AND THE PROPHETS? Mt 5:17-18 50. When Jesus was asked, "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" why did Jesus NOT QUOTE from the 10 commandments, but from the blotted out “ceremonial” Law of Moses? Matthew 22:36-40; Col.2:13-17 51. If the 10 commandments are the highest and most complete expression of God's will, then why did it lack the two most important commandments? Matthew 22:36-40 where is the prohibition against drunkenness, homosexuality and fornication? 52. If the 10 commandments are the highest and most complete expression of God's will, then why did Jesus give a new commandment to "love one another, even as I have loved you" John 13:34? Where in the history of mankind were the Jews ever told to love their neighbour as Yahweh loved them? 53. If Christians worshipping on Sunday is equal to Sun Worship, then are Sabbath keepers worshipping on Saturday equal to Saturn worship? 54. If Sabbatarians will boldly quote "scholars" who are really Bible thrashers and sceptics who claim "the origin of Sunday worship is entirely pagan", like Arthur Weigall in his ridiculous little book, "The Paganism in our Christianity", will these same Sabbatarians turn a few pages later where these same authors say the origin of the Sabbath is also pagan? I quote him :”I have, already mentioned that Sunday, too, was a pagan holy-day; and in this chapter I propose to discuss the origin of this custom of keeping one day in the week as a Sabbath, or "day of rest,' and' to show that the practice was forcefully opposed by Jesus Christ. The origin of the seven-day week which was used by the Jews and certain other peoples, but not till, later by the Greeks or Romans, is to be sought in some primitive worship of the moon (The Paganism in Our Christianity, Arthur Weigall, 1928, p209,210-211) 55. If the Sabbath is a MORAL LAW why did Jesus say David and the priests with his donkey could all break the Sabbath without sinning? Mt 12:1-14; Mk 2:23f, Luke 13:10-17; 14:1-6 John 5:8-18; 7:19-24; 9:14-16. Jesus’s disciples clearly broke the Sabbath! Read Deut 5; 12-15; Ex.16 and 20. WHY is it NOT A SIN? 56. If the Sabbath is a moral law, why did God grow tired of the Jews keeping it and told them to stop keeping the Sabbath? Isa 1:13-14. Did God ever grow weary of anyone not committing adultery or murder, and tell them to be immoral and kill? 57. If the Sabbath is a moral law, how could Jesus break it without sinning? Jn. 5:17-18 Exodus 16:27-29 58. If one of the distinctions between the Ten Commandments was proven by the fact they were written by the finger of God, why did Moses copy them out twice with his own hand? How can there be any distinction between the 10 commandments in the ark and the book of the law beside the ark, if the book contained two copies of exactly what was in the ark? I think God is telling old covenant keepers twice that the law is blotted out and replaced by the new commandments. 59. Why are the terms "ceremonial law" and "moral law" never found in the Bible? Why is the word ceremonial or any of its roots never found in the same verse as the word LAW and why is the word moral or any of its roots never found in the same verse as the word LAW? 60. If there is a distinction between moral and ceremonial laws, why do "God's laws" and "the law of God" contain ceremonial laws? Why do "Moses law" and the "law of Moses" contain moral laws? 61. If there is a distinction between moral and ceremonial laws, why does the "law of God" command animal sacrifices Luke 2:23-24 and the "law of the Lord" contains burnt offerings 2 Chron. 31:3; 1 Chron. 16:40? 62. If there is a distinction between moral and ceremonial laws, then why is the book of Law of Moses filled with moral laws not contained in the 10 commandments? 63. If there is a distinction between the Law of the Lord and the Law of Moses, why in 2 Chron. 35:26 are "the acts of Josiah and his deeds of devotion written in the law of the Lord"? 64. If there is a distinction between moral and ceremonial laws, then why does the Law of God include new moons and solemn feast days in Ps 81:3-4? 65. If there is a distinction between the Law of the Lord and the Law of Moses, why did the law of the Lord tell Israel to dwell in tents: Neh. 8:14-15? 66. If Jesus came to fulfil the law and the prophets, then didn't Mt 5:17 say that only then would they be abolished before heaven and earth pass away? If the law and the prophets are still in force for believers, doesn't that prove Jesus didn't fulfil the law completely? “It is finished” was a lie then if you are right. 67. If the Jewish law against eating pork was blotted out by Christ, why do Sabbatarians continue to enforce what they call, "the ceremonial law of Moses": Mk 7:18-19; 1 Tim 4:1-4; Rom 14:2; Acts 10:9-16 . Shouldn't you start to eat pork? BACON. mmmmm 68. If the Jewish law of Tithing is forbidden in 2 Cor. 9, why do Sabbatarians have a practise from the “ceremonial law of Moses"? Tithing is a ceremonial law for you!!!!! 69. If the Jewish Sabbath was blotted out in Col 2:14-16, yet Sabbatarians keep the Sabbath, which itself is the only ceremonial law of the 10 commandments? Why keep a ceremonial law? 70. Why do you practice tithing which is Prohibited: 2 Cor. 9:7 forbid Eating Pork, which is Permitted: 1 Cor.10:25, Mk 7:18-19 and keep the Sabbath which is blotted out: Col 2:14-16? Aren't all three of these ceremonial laws? 71. When Sabbatarians attempt to prove there is a distinction between the moral vs. ceremonial laws, the law of God vs. the Law of Moses, the 10 commandments vs. and the book of the law, and they've shown countless bible passages that destroy any distinction Sabbatarians might dream up, will they at least be honest and admit they need to find some definitive way to create this false distinction that does not exist in the Bible and will try again tomorrow or better never? 72. Why do you refuse to accept that Col 2:16 contains the Old Testament pattern of referring to the Jewish holy days in a yearly, monthly, weekly sequence as in 1 Chronicles 23:31, 2 Chronicles 31:3, 2 Chronicles 8:13, 2 Chronicles 2:4, Nehemiah 10:33, Ezekiel 45:17, Hosea 2:11, Galatians 4:10? 73. If the plural "sabbaton" in Col 2:16 cannot refer to the weekly Sabbath day, then why does plural "sabbaton" refer to the weekly Sabbath day in Matthew 28:1, Luke 4:16, Acts 16:13, Exodus 20:8 (in Septuagint) Leviticus 23:37-38 (in Septuagint)? 74. If in Col 2:16, the lack of the definite article before the word "Sabbath" in the Greek proves it cannot refer to the weekly Sabbath, then why does the weekly Sabbath lack the definite article in Matthew 28:1, John 5:9, 10, 16 where it refers to the weekly Sabbath? 75. If Isa 66:23 proves the Sabbath will be in heaven, will the new moon festival also be there and shouldn't we keep them too? “from new moon to new moon And from Sabbath to Sabbath". Verse 24 gives a strange view that they will have in this new heaven, corpses of men and worms eating it. 76. If Hebrews 4 teaches we are to keep the weekly Sabbath, then why does the text say we are to enter a rest that none of the Jews at the time of Joshua in the Promised Land ever experienced in v 8? 77. If the Sabbath will endure forever because it is called "eternal" then won't all the Jewish feasts and circumcision also endure because it is also called eternal in Gen 17:10-14 (same Hebrew word used) 78. If the Sabbath will endure forever because it is called "holy" then won't all the Jewish feasts also endure forever because they are also called holy? 79. If the Sabbath will endure forever because God hallowed it, then won't Solomon's temple Ps 65:4; 1 Kings 9:3 and the vessels in the tabernacle Ex 40:9; Num 31:6; 1 Kings 8:4 also endure forever because God hallowed them too? 80. If the Sabbath will endure forever because it was an eternal sign between God and his people, then shouldn't we also still practice circumcision Gen 17:11 and Passover Ex 12:13 because it too is called an eternal sign between God and his people? 81. How long were the creation rest day's rest? How long did it endure? Did God start working on the eight day again? Did Adam work six days before resting or did he enter the rest immediately? 82. If it is only through the Sabbath that we can know that it is God who sanctifies us Ex 31:13, then what ever happened to faith in Christ Yeshua [Jesus ]sanctifying us? Any if we should therefore keep the Sabbath, then we must also build the tabernacle, for the Bible says through it we may know it is God who sanctifies us Ezek. 37:28? 83. If the fact that the Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament after Pentecost proves it is still in force, then does the mention of The Day of Pentecost Acts 2:1, The days of unleavened bread Acts 12:3; 20:6, Days of Purification: Acts 21:26, Animal Sacrifices: Acts 21:26, Circumcision: Acts 16:3, Temple worship: Acts 24:12 prove we must keep these too because they are also mentioned and must therefore also still be in force like the Sabbath? 84. Sda's if you want to deny that your official position is that worshipping on Sunday is the Mark of the Beast, do you realize that the "inspired" Ellen G. White, Uriah Smith, the Advent review and Leo Schreven (who conducts "Revelation seminars" today) all call it the mark of the beast? 85. SDA's don’t you think the roman empire fit the bringing of the mark of the beast better because they changed the time from eve to eve to midnight to midnight and introduced emperor worship rather than YHWH. That is definitely much better evidence than your theory!!!! 86. Christians can find 21+ reasons why the day of the Lord [first day of the week] is significant to their faith as Christians in the New Testament. Can Sabbatarians find even one reason in the New Testament why the Sabbath has any meaning distinct to Christians? 87. Did you know that the Jewish Sabbath was significant to the Jews because it was a memorial of this present physical creation and their deliverance from the bo***ge of Egypt and that the first day of the week is a memorial of our new creation in Christ (2 Cor. 5:7) and our deliverance from the bo***ge of sin. (Gal 4:4-5; Eph 1:7) 88. How would you teach someone living in the Arctic Circle to keep the Sabbath, BIBLICALLY please? 89. Did you know that regardless of whether the Sadducee's or Pharisee's method of calculating Pentecost was used the year Christ died, both would calculate Pentecost in Acts 2:1 as the first day of the week? Did you also know that the official position of the Seventh-day Adventist church was that Pentecost in Acts 2:1 fell on a Sunday that year? 90. Do you realize that the phrase, "that no collections be made when I come" in 1 Cor. 16:2 proves that Christians were saving up their offerings each week at home and demanded they put it into a common treasury every Sunday? 91. Did you know that 1 Cor. 16:2 actually says, "EVERY 1st day" because the same Greek phrase is also found in Acts 13:14 "appointed elders in EVERY church". Did you know that you must give every 1st day of the week into the church's common treasury not the seventh day? It's biblical!. 92. If Jesus died on Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath, like some Bible thrasher Sabbatarians say, rather than a Friday - Sunday duration because you demand a full 72 hours in the grave, then why did Jesus count the Friday - Sunday duration as three days in Luke 13:32? 93. If Jesus died on Wednesday and rose on the Sabbath rather than a Friday - Sunday duration because you demand a full 72 hours in the grave, why is exactly a 72 hour period called 4 days by Peter in Acts 10:3; 9; 23; 24; 30? Study the Hebrew concept on time if you like, that’s how they talked. 94. If the fact that the 10 commandments were written in stone, proves they will never be abolished, then where was Adam's stone copy of the 10 commandments? Why did God not give Adam a stone copy once for all time? Why is it that Moses was the first person in history to not only see the 10 commandments, but the first person to hold the stone tablets upon which the 10 commandments were written? Why do Sabbath keepers argue that the ten commandment law is no longer written in stone, but in the flesh of the human heart in 2 Corinthians 3:3? (Of course 2 Cor. 3:3 says the 10 commandments were abolished and the new Covenant, the law of Christ is written on human hearts). The new commandments we are to keep are written down in 1 John 3:23. It is also the commandments that John refers to in Rev.12:17; 14:12; 22: 14 95. Was the Holy Spirit a liar when he inspired the writing of 2 Cor. 5:17 and that He meant only some things are made new regarding man and the old and new covenant? 96. Why did Jesus stop teaching in the synagogues on the Sabbath and continued to preach and teach on other days and on other places? The last synagogue meetings that the Bible notes are in Mat. 13:54; Mark 6:2; Luke 13:19; John 6:59. All four gospels record it to be approximately in the middle of His ministry. See Biblediagrams.com for the timelines. 97. God commanded that those who break the Sabbath must be killed. Where do you do that, I would like to report it to some authorities or do you not do what God said. Exodus 35:2 is God's command. 98. Sda's if the Goat of Az**el in Lev.16 represents satan then you are saying that satan is a sin offering because of verse 5 and that is what is also taught in the church of satan. Thus your teaching is exactly the same as satanism. Satanists teach that satan will take the sin of the world upon him to free mankind from God's bo***ge on them. They also teach that satan freed Adam and Eve from God's captivity in Eden. 99. Would it not be better to see Yeshua [Jesus] and His ministry as a Melgisedec order Heb. 6:20 – 7:21 rather than a Leviticus 16 one! Because: Nr.1: According to Lev. 16 sinners brought the goats but in the case of Jesus, sinners did not bring him to be killed, they had no power but what was given to them by God. He laid down His life by Himself. John. 10:11; 17; 18. Nr. 2: In Lev. 16 the goat is the sin offering but in the case of Yeshua [Jesus,] Jesus are always, even in the prophesies of Him in the old testament He is mentioned as a Lamb and not a goat. I have seven more reasons but this should settle the argument fully. Also Melcisedec was outside the 10 commandment time period and he also did not have it!!! 100. The sda church's current and historical written position is that Sunday worship is the mark of the beast. Rev. 13-15 teaches clearly that if someone has the mark they cannot get rid of it. Then why do you keep on targeting Christians who all have the mark and chase all those who were Sunday worshippers out of the SDA church because they still have the mark.[Rev 14:9-11] 101. Sda's why do your leaders not tell their members that there is sufficient proof that Christians did worship on Sunday since the apostolic age and that the god that inspired E. G. White lied to her or he did not know that Christians did, which would make him a stupid god whilst the God of the Christians never lied or knew something not. 102. SDA's if the god that you worship is all knowing why did he tell E.G. White to keep the Sabbath from 6 – 6 and you kept it for 9 years like that. Didn’t your god know it is from eve to eve? 103. SDA's if your god is found to be not all knowing, can he be the all knowing God of the Christians? After 9 years of Sabbath keeping from 6 to 6 sda scholars found that the Sabbath have to be kept from sunset to sunset and they [SDA's themselves] corrected their god's mistake and helped him right. 104. I mean do SDA's serve the same God as the Christians. It surely is an Absolutely NO!! The Christian God does not make mistakes. 105. Sda's how many false prophesies must E.G.W. give before she is a false prophet, biblically please? 106. SDA's if your jesus is the arch angel Michael as E. G. White said then he is a created being. The Bible teaches that all angels are created beings and that is a problem, for Jesus then cannot be God. To Christians Jesus [Yeshua] is God [Emanuel]. Conclusion, your jesus is not the same Jesus that Christians worship, you have a very serious problem. [2 Cor. 11:4] The Bible teach do not worship angels and that God never ever called any angel His son. 107. SDA's why are every single member leaving the SDA church when they find the truth about the feast of Hanukkah and the time it took for the cleansing of the sanctuary? 108. Sda's why are there so many additions, changes and left out pieces in the Clear Word Bible.? 109. Commandment keepers why is there not even one who keep the ten commandments while you teach others to keep it, which is something that not you nor your fathers and their fathers fathers could do. There is a name for people who tell you to do something and they themselves do not do it!!!!!!!!! Acts 15:10; James 2 : 10 110. SDA's why are all sda pastors fired who believed the truth that satan does not represent the goat of Az**el. Lev. 16 111. Why would God call Sunday the day that the Lord has made in Ps. 118:22-24.? On which day did that prophesy came true and on which day according to the Bible should we rejoice and be glad in? IT IS FORETOLD OF A NEW DAY!! On which day did the apostles start to rejoice and be glad on? 112. SDA's why do Adventists teach E.G.W.'s doctrine that a Christian will stand before God without a mediator when the Bible clearly says that Jesus will be our mediator? 113. SDA's if Jesus became our High priest in 1844 then why do the Bible teach in the book of Hebrews that Jesus became our High priest when He lay down His life on the cross? 114. SDA's why do you stay in the church even when you know E.G.W. is a false prophet are there some kind of spell on you? Clearly she did prophesy a lot of false things didn’t she? 115. SDA's why are your view on abortion not like the view of Christians? Christians are PRO-LIFE and SDA's are PRO-CHOICE!! 116. SDA's why don't your leaders tell you they found out that the Investigative Judgement is unbiblical and I have the proof if one need it. 117. Why do Sabbath keepers believe the Roman Catholic church when they say they changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday but say they lie when they say the pope is equal to Christ or you can confess your sins to Mary for forgiveness or you can give money to pardon some sins etc. etc. True Christians know they lie in all those areas but why do you believe that one lie? 118. If only by the 10 commandments we can "live", then why do Ezek 20:11 say this of the "ceremonial law", "I gave them My statutes and informed them of My ordinances, by which, if a man observes them, he will live." (Ezek 20:11)? 119. Old covenant Law keepers state that Jesus is their High priest! How is this lawfully possible because Jesus is of the tribe of Judah and the old covenant law commands priests to be of the tribe of Levi? I can teach you why Jesus is the Christians High priest lawfully. Heb.7:12? 120. SDA's according to the Bible in 1 John. 2:18-22; 4:3 and 2 John1:7 the spirit of the antichrist will teach that God did not come in the flesh and you support this view by teaching that “The man Jesus Christ was not the Lord God Almighty” You clearly have a denial of Jesus being God in the flesh, thus you have that spirit of the antichrist in you. 121. Sabbath keepers why do you teach the 10 commandments are eternal when the Bible teaches it’s conditionally eternal in Lev.26:15-16? 122. By the way SDA’s why do you teach that the Sabbath are the greatest commandment in the law when Jesus taught differently? 123. Sabbath keepers why do you condemn the Catholic Church for their version of the 10 commandments but you do the same by trying to prove the 10 commandments are in the new covenant/testament? Changing the LAW is a serious sin isn’t it? Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Rev.22:18-19 "When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken, or cease to be honest!"

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