05/27/2026
“IF YOU’RE PART OF A FRAUD, THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN YOU EXPOSE THE FALSEHOOD... HEY, I REALLY WAS PART OF A CONSPIRACY.” (Brother Jared interviews Brother Josh)
“At one point, David Whitmer, an incredible witness of the Golden plates, is taken out with a group of saints, left in the middle of the square of town at that time—bayonets pointed at their heads—and he's directly asked to reject the Book of Mormon. The Spirit of God enters into him, and he begins to preach the truth of what he knows. Remember, for him it's not a belief—he saw with his own eyes, and he began to preach the truth of the golden plates and the Book of Mormon. So much so that it dismantled the people that were there with bayonets. They actually broke up. The mob broke up. We have witnesses that are enduring amazing persecution.
"The saddest bit of persecution that they had was the fact that in their lifetime, many of those witnesses felt Joseph Smith was falling away, disagreed with him about doctrines and practices within the church, and were excommunicated. Now, if you're part of a fraud, this is the moment when you expose the falsehood. In Independence, Oliver Cowdery and others are kicked out through a manifesto that threatens their lives, and church members are robbing their homes at this point. This is the moment when you say: Hey, I really was part of a conspiracy. This wasn't true.
"The founding shepherds are kicked out; their lives are threatened by the very church that they helped organize. And instead of rejecting The Book of Mormon, they continue to say: Well, Joseph might have gone into falsehood—while this might be in error, well, that might be in error, one thing I know is true: The Book of Mormon is the word of God, was given as a gift by God, and came forth by the gift and power of God, and I saw the golden plates for myself. And the rest of their lives, they gave living testimonies of the truth of The Book of Mormon. Every witness that doesn't have the last name Smith gets excommunicated, and none of them… none of them… give up the faith regarding the Book of Mormon.”
Hear the entire interview-click the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WWB_ih5pKw&t=700s
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