12/30/2025
š New Episode Out Now!
What does excellence in ministry actually look likeāand where do we draw the line between faithfulness and mediocrity? In this episode, Barry and Jason dive into that question, share their top five book series, and take on a thoughtful (and often misunderstood) conversation about multiple spouses in Scripture.
Itās honest, wide-ranging, and grounded in real-life faithācomplete with insights, challenges, and a few laughs along the way. If you enjoy conversations that donāt shy away from hard topics and actually make you think, this oneās for you.
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