Living Water Baptist Church

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We're a theologically conservative Baptist church committed to exalting our sovereign Lord Jesus Christ and proclaiming His gospel with verse-by-verse preaching. Here at Living Water, we emphasize a verse-by-verse, expositional study of the Bible. We sing congregational, biblical hymns and songs. We are not an entertainment-based ministry, but we seek to glorify God in all we do. We are a theologi

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06/08/2026

You might have found history a boring subject in school, but it can prove the Bible to be true. This evening, we see just how detailed God's prophesied were!

06/07/2026

How should we fulfill the Great Commission? This morning, Rocky Wyatt, president of XL Ministries (Excellence in Leadership), challenges us to see our full responsibility of Christian instruction to others.

Good morning from Living Water Baptist in Fruita, CO! “Serve the LORD with gladness; Come before Him with joyful singing...
06/07/2026

Good morning from Living Water Baptist in Fruita, CO!

“Serve the LORD with gladness; Come before Him with joyful singing. Know that the LORD Himself is God; it is He who has made us, and not we ourselves; we are His people and the sheep of His pasture. Enter His gates with thanksgiving and His courts with praise. Give thanks to Him, bless His name. For the LORD is good; His lovingkindness is everlasting and His faithfulness to all generations” (Ps 100:2–5).

Here are the sermons for this Lord's Day. If you're in the area, we hope to see you here, either for Sunday School at 9:15 or for our church services at 10:30 and 6!

>10:30 AM Service: “Discipling the Great Commission” (Matt. 28:18–20), Rocky Wyatt
How should we fulfill the Great Commission? This morning, Rocky Wyatt, president of XL Ministries (Excellence in Leadership), challenges us to see our full responsibility of Christian instruction to others.

>6 PM Service: “God’s Sovereignty Over Prophesied Empires, Part 1” (Dan. 11:1–9)
You might have found history a boring subject in school, but it can prove the Bible to be true. This evening, we see just how detailed God's prophesied were!

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06/01/2026

“Heavenly Fighting, Part 2” (Dan. 10:10–21)
A lot of Christians have various views on spiritual warfare, but we can't deny that it's real. Join us as we consider what we need for spiritual battle!

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MANUSCRIPT:
Series: “Daniel: God’s Sovereign Plans” #27
Text: Daniel 10:10–21
By: Shaun Marksbury
Date: May 31, 2026
Venue: Living Water Baptist Church
Occasion: PM Service

Introduction
There always seems to be evil opposing key moments in history. When Jesus walked the earth, demonic activity peaked in Israel. Our Lord faced temptation, seemingly supernatural weather, and even demoniacs as He proclaimed the gospel.

This can also be true, to a lesser degree, of certain moments in life and ministry. More recently, there’s an account of a missionary in Pakistan who experienced demonic opposition through a rattling door accompanied by strange noises at 3:00 a.m.; this was precisely when his ministry was seeing significant spiritual fruit. After prayer and Scripture quoting, the attack ceased. Similarly, a church planter in New Jersey was physically attacked — unable to breathe as if being choked — until his roommate rebuked Satan and the assault ended.[1]

I’ve likewise had a strange experience or two in seminary. Once, while in bed alone, I felt a pressure like a hand placed on my pillow, and then a rushing sensation move up my body and a pressure on my chest that didn’t subside until I prayed. I’ve also experience sudden attacks of doubt and even depressive thoughts during pivotal moments of ministry, moments I was only able to overcome through prayer and the Word of God. Our family has also faced attacks that we could only describe as demonic opposition — encounters which were sometimes seemingly mundane from everyone else’s perspective, but which cut to the core of our household.

Now, Christians have a lot of ideas about spiritual warfare. Some of it is admittedly a bit sensational, perhaps taking moments like these and dramatizing them. But others are more biblical. Spiritual warfare may not look like a comic book fight between angels and demons clashing swords. Yet, it does exist, and it might be more terrifying than we would dare to witness. And some of you have experienced it.

In fact, believers often face greater danger from minor skirmishes than major spiritual battles. That’s because one of the greatest sources of evil for each person lies within their own hearts — and they have no hope to defeat the darkness until they have the light of Christ shining inside of them. Indeed, if Satan can immobilize someone with a simple temptation, then there’s no need for him to waste effort on that person. These smaller fights are much more common, keeping Christians distracted from any larger combat.

Yet, when a person begins overcome temptation and sin and even take the light of truth into other dark areas, then there will be serious opposition.

There is territory that is clearly under the control of demonic influence. From this part of the chapter, we see in Daniel five ways to engage in spiritual battle. First, spiritual battle requires the esteem of the Lord (vv. 10–11). Second, spiritual battle requires patient faithfulness in the Lord (vv. 12–13). Third, spiritual battle requires a humble understanding in the Lord (vv. 14–15). Fourth, spiritual battle requires a purity of speech before the Lord (vv. 16–17). Fifth, spiritual battle requires the strength of the Lord (vv. 18–21). Let’s get into the fight with the first of these:

First, Spiritual Battle Requires the Esteem of the Lord (vv. 10–11)
Then behold, a hand touched me and set me shaking on my hands and knees. And he said to me, “O Daniel, man of high esteem, understand the words that I am about to speak to you and stand upright, for I have now been sent to you.” And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood up trembling.

The scene follows the overwhelming vision in vv. 4–9. It leaves Daniel prostrate and trembling. And this isn’t the only time Daniel experiences a severe reaction to divine revelation. As one commentary notes, this should leave us in gratitude:

True, we seldom if ever think of it — of the horror and pain the Lord’s servants endured in order to be the vehicles through whom his word is passed on to us in the Scriptures. We sit comfortably at our desks or tables with a companionable mug of coffee, read the prophets, and scarcely think of how Daniel was physically and emotionally wiped out or Ezekiel plunged into a mental morass of anguish and anger (Ezek. 3:14–15) — in short, of how much the word of God cost them. If we did, we would more highly prize and tenderly reverence what we have received at their hands.”[2]

Now, God doesn’t leave Daniel in this state, and Daniel receives a gentle yet powerful touch from an unnamed figure. We might wonder who, for the “man” of verses 5–6 — most likely the pre-incarnate Christ — had appeared with such glory that Daniel collapsed. We might think, then, that Christ reaches down here like he did later in a similar situation with John (Rev. 1:17). However, our Lord doesn’t always operate in the same way twice, and there’s no indication He moves.

Instead, it appears He sends His angel to comfort His prophet. This is likely the angel Gabriel, who previously interpreted revelations for Daniel (Dan. 8:16; 9:21). Now Gabriel, in more approachable form “like the appearance of a man” (v. 18), ministers to him. Since Gabriel operates in the power of God, tough, we shouldn’t see this as any less than the power of God, which is able to give us strength.[3]

Yet, still, Daniel is literally set on “knees and the palms of my hands.”[4] Strength and comfort often come gradually to those long cast down, and as Matthew Henry notes, we “must not despise the day of small things, but be thankful for the beginnings of mercy.”[5] God gives strength as it is needed for the battle.

Part of that strength can come in the form of encouraging words. The Hebrew term conveys “desirability” or “preciousness.”[6] This is such a comforting word that Daniel will hear it again in v. 19. As one study explains, “God loves everyone (see John 3:16); yet some, because of their special relationship to God, are objects of unusual divine love (see 1 Sam. 13:14; John 13:23; 14:21, 23; Acts 13:22).”[7] Nothing revives drooping spirits like assurance of God’s love,[8] and in the midst of spiritual conflict, we must remember this.

It’s with the strengthening of the Lord that we are ever able to hear and receive divine commands. It’s here in v. 11 that the angel commands understanding and strength — “understand the words… and stand upright.” Remember that this is just introduction for the next chapter. Daniel must listen carefully to the dense, detailed prophecy of chapter 11. Modern believers should note that fulfilled prophecies in chapter 11 came literally and exactly, assuring us that unfulfilled ones will too.[9]

Daniel was still on the ground on his hands and knees, like Ezekiel was (Ezek. 2:1). The command infuses the prophet with courage, though, for this mighty messenger of God brings the answer to Daniel’s prayer.[10] So, when the angel speaks, Daniel rises — even if still trembling. True encounters with divine glory produce holy awe within us.

In spiritual battle, begin with the esteem of the Lord, knowing your own sinfulness and need for His grace. Rest in your identity as His beloved. As Satan accuses, remember that God affirms you. When opposition comes, remember you are precious to the King of heaven. Let that truth steady you, for you need both patience and steadfastness, bringing us to our next point.

Second, Spiritual Battle Requires Patient Faithfulness in the Lord (vv. 12–13)
Then he said to me, “Do not be afraid, Daniel, for from the first day that you gave your heart to understand this and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to your words. “But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was standing against me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me. Now I had been left there with the kings of Persia.

Daniel is still trembling, so the angel speaks those familiar words, “Do not be afraid” (cf. v. 19). It is the Lord’s will that we stand before Him in a reverential awe, but He also comforts us and calls us away from fear. The joy of the Lord becomes our strength.[11]
We then see a fascinating reality: Our prayers apparently affect the spiritual realm, both among angels and demons. This angel is dispatched in response to Daniel’s prayer. However, we should note that angels were fighting the demonic delay, not Daniel.

The angel explains the delay. From the first day of Daniel’s humbling himself, meaning engaging in prayer and fasting,[12] his words were heard. God was attentive to Daniel from the first day, even if Daniel had to wait twenty-one days for a response (cf. vv. 2–3).

Daniel’s patient faithfulness mattered. As one commentator notes, “Of what use was his prayer? Baldwin is spot on when she says, ‘I have come because of your words [v. 12b] implies that this visitation would not have occurred apart from Daniel’s specific prayer’. Then the speaker’s continued explanation in verse 13 (more on this verse later) implies that Daniel’s prayer sustained a behind-the-scenes triumph over the malicious designs of the invisible powers in charge of Persia.”[13] Prayer influences the spiritual realm!

Now, who is the “prince of the kingdom of Persia” of the next verse? He is not likely a human ruler (a human could not withstand an angel) but a powerful demonic spirit. Angels are sometimes “watchers,” one who is awake or alert (Dan. 4:13). Angels need no sleep (Ps. 17:8), and they watch the affairs of men with a sleepless eye, and they are ranked according to a hierarchy of rule and authority and power and dominion, which satanic powers imitate.[14] So, this high-ranking evil being, discovering God’s messenger in Persia, decided to delay him from his mission.

Scripture reveals Satan assigns high-ranking demons over nations to influence policies against God’s people (cf. Eph. 6:12). Since Persia was the world power at the time, this could have been one of Satan’s chief princes or Satan himself, explaining why this was such a difficult spiritual stronghold. All of the “religious, social, and political structures” of the empire were being shaped for evil,[15] perhaps whispering temptation or even possessing people for wicked purposes.[16] And now, Persia’s prince sought to hinder God’s purposes for Israel.

Incidentally, this has massive implications for world history. At any moment, behind the scenes, there is real warfare waged concerning the fate of nations. We sometimes wonder what happen to people who seem to be good, who then get into politics and suddenly become very bad; we theorize that some cabal ensnared them, which is possible but also ignores a further spiritual explanation. As our own nation approaches 250 years of age, we should be reminded to pray for protection and revival.

Now, we must remember that God is sovereign over the nations, as well as their evil counterparts in the spiritual realm. The prince of Persia only delays Gabriel because God allowed it for His purposes,[17] and at the right time, He dispatched Michael, “one of the chief princes.” As one commentary explains, “Michael has been assigned by God as Israel’s prince (cf. 10:21); he is ‘great’ in power and protects the Jewish people (cf. 12:1). The implications of these statements are clear. Israel has a mighty angelic supporter in the heavenly realm. Therefore, regardless of Israel’s political, military, and economic weaknesses, its existence is assured because no earthly power can resist their great prince.”[18] This reveals heavenly warfare is also affecting earthly events.

The final clause mentions “kings of Persia” (plural). This is likely referring to several demonic rulers influencing Persian leadership. They probably weren’t fighting Gabriel simply to prevent the delivery of this message, because the conflict resumes after Daniel receives the message.[19] Rather, this is fighting to prevent any possible good and the continued progress of evil.

Patient faithfulness counts. We’re not praying to angels, but persistent prayer may unleash angelic activity you never see.[20] So, do not grow weary. God hears from day one, and the battle belongs Him, and we have no idea how our prayer factors into these matters. So, keep humbling yourself before Him, seeking to do things His way, as we see next:

Third, Spiritual Battle Requires a Humble Understanding in the Lord (vv. 14–15)
“Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen to your people in the last days, for the vision pertains to the days yet future.” Now when he had spoken to me according to these words, I turned my face toward the ground and became speechless.

The angel’s purpose is clear: to deliver understanding for Daniel’s people “in the last days” (or “end of the days”). This phrase points to future events culminating in God’s kingdom (Dan. 2:28; Isa. 2:2). The revelation in chapter 11 surveys history from Persia through Greece, focusing on Antiochus IV — but it also ultimately points to the Antichrist and climaxes with the coming kingdom of God.[21] So, this does pertain also to the end.

Yet, these words spark a quiet response from Daniel. He turns his face to the ground and becomes speechless. He is struck dumb with awe. This is also a response we sometimes have with genuine encounters with the divine. Incidentally, this is why “Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence” is an excellent if not also unique Christmas hymn to consider the advent of our Lord. We do well to approach God’s Word with similar humility.

We know this is humility based on what Daniel says in vv. 16–17. Before we get there, though, note how important it is to approach spiritual battle with humble understanding of God’s word and will. We do not fight in our wisdom but in submission to God’s revealed will. When we approach prophecy, let’s take God at His word. Similarly, when we approach any other matter of Christian living, let’s not “spiritualize” away the meaning of the text. Seek understanding of His plans, even when they involve conflict.

All of this is for naught if we live in a way unbecoming the saints. Indeed, we all fall short, even the Daniels among us! Yet, the Lord has cleansing for us, as we see next.

Fourth, Spiritual Battle Requires a Purity of Speech Before the Lord (vv. 16–17)
And behold, one in the likeness of the sons of men was touching my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke and said to him who was standing before me, “O my lord, as a result of the vision that appeared, pains have come upon me, and I have retained no might. Now how can such a servant of my lord talk with such as my lord? As for me, right now no might stands within me, nor does any breath remain within me.”

Again, a figure “in the likeness of the sons of men” touches Daniel’s lips. This echoes Isaiah 6:7 and Jeremiah 1:9, indicating both cleansing and calling. The angelic touch here similarly enables Daniel’s speech.

Daniel addresses the being with humble respect (“my lord”). As one theologian notes, “Man, who has lost his integrity, has reason to blush, and be ashamed of himself, when he sees or considers the glory of the blessed angels that keep their integrity.”[22] Daniel is confessing human weakness, the anguish which grips him, which causes his strength and breath fail. Daniel is a sinner, though we don’t know his particular failings, and he needed the forgiveness and sanctification of the Lord.

His words also model purity. He makes honest confession without pretense as he is concerned about Israel’s coming suffering. [23] This kind of humble, dependent speech is essential in spiritual battle.

Speak purely before the Lord and one another. Remember that God strengthens the humble for battle, so lay aside any pride. Our words in prayer and testimony should reflect dependence on Him.

And that brings us back to one of the first things we saw:

Fifth, Spiritual Battle Requires the Strength of the Lord (vv. 18–21)
Then this one with the appearance of a man touched me again and strengthened me. And he said, “O man of high esteem, do not be afraid. Peace be with you; gather strength and be strong!” Now as soon as he spoke to me, I received strength and said, “May my lord speak, for you have strengthened me.” Then he said, “Do you know why I came to you? But I shall now return to fight against the prince of Persia; so I am going forth, and behold, the prince of Greece is about to come. However, I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth. Now there is no one who exerts strength with me against these forces except Michael your prince.

The third touch strengthens Daniel for conversation. Talk about being “touched by an angel”! As one study notes, “The first touch enabled him to arise from the ground, the second to speak, and the third to carry on a conversation.”[24] The Lord desires to strengthen His people (cf. Isa. 35:3–4), and He will do so sometimes through an angel, a word from a saint, a passage of Scripture, or through some other means He designates. It is through this communication of divine strength that we are able to stand in the evil day.

The angel repeats his encouragement from before. He says “Do not be afraid… Peace be with you; gather strength and be strong!” (LSB). Joshua heard similar words (Josh. 1:6, 7, 9), and so do all with an anxious heart. Immediately, as a result of both the touch and the word, Daniel feels empowered.

In v. 20, the angel rhetorically takes an accounting of where Daniel is (asking, “Do you understand…?”), perhaps because of Daniel’s intense reactions in this chapter. [25] The angel also tells Daniel he must leave him soon to return to battle the prince of Persia, then face the prince of Greece. If you thought 21 days was a long time for battle, these conflicts literally span centuries. Yet, God’s purposes will prevail!

Finally, the angel says this message comes from “the writing of truth.” This isn’t Scripture, but God’s eternal, hidden, unalterable decree from before the ages. Daniel will have to pay attention to what comes next in ch. 11, but he can be assured that Michael stands with the messenger to ensure God’s sovereign plans.

Rely on the Lord’s strength, for your weakness is the platform for His power. Fight not in your might but His. Pray for leaders, knowing heavenly battles rage. God’s plan, written in truth, will stand.

Conclusion
Again, this is just the introduction. In fact, the chapter break might be in the wrong place, with Daniel 11:1 being a natural place for us to end. Even so, we’ll save that for next time.

Second Corinthians 10:4–5 says that “the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the tearing down of strongholds, as we tear down speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.” One commentator notes, “One reason why God commands His people to pray for those in authority is so that God’s will, not Satan’s plans, might be fulfilled in their lives (1 Tim. 2:1–3). The destiny of more than one nation has been changed because God’s people have fervently prayed.”[26]

Spiritual battle is real. Yet we fight from victory in Christ. Esteem the Lord. Remain patiently faithful. Cultivate humble understanding. Speak purely. Draw strength from Him. Stand firm—your Prince fights for you.

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[1] Samuel Naaman, “Winning in Spiritual Warfare,” in One Volume Seminary: A Complete Ministry Education from the Faculty of Moody Bible Institute and Moody Theological Seminary, ed. Michael J. Boyle, Laurie L. Norris, and Kerwin A. Rodriguez (Chicago, IL: Moody Publishers, 2022), 243–244.

[2] Dale Ralph Davis, The Message of Daniel: His Kingdom Cannot Fail, eds. Alec Motyer and Derek Tidball, The Bible Speaks Today, (Nottingham, England: Inter-Varsity Press, 2013), 145.

[3] Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible: Complete and Unabridged in One Volume, (Peabody: Hendrickson, 1994), 1456.

[4] New American Standard Bible: 1995 Update, (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1995).

[5] Henry, 1455.

[6] New American Standard Bible: 1995 Update.

[7] Earl D. Radmacher, Ronald Barclay Allen, and H. Wayne House, The Nelson Study Bible: New King James Version, (Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers, 1997), Da 10:11.

[8] Henry, 1456.

[9] Stephen R. Miller, Daniel, The New American Commentary, (Nashville: Broadman & Holman Publishers, 1994), 18:283.

[10] Ibid.

[11] Henry.

[12] Miller, 18:284.

[13] Davis, 141.

[14] J. Dwight Pentecost, The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures, 1985, 1, 1366.

[15] Radmacher, et. al., Da 10:13.

[16] Sam Emadi, Lexham Survey of Theology, 2018.

[17] Ted Cabal, Chad Owen Brand, E. Ray Clendenen, Paul Copan, J. P. Moreland, and Doug Powell, The Apologetics Study Bible: Real Questions, Straight Answers, Stronger Faith, (Nashville, TN: Holman Bible Publishers, 2007), 1288.

[18] Miller, 18:285.

[19] Ibid., 18:284–285.

[20] Warren W. Wiersbe, Be Resolute, “Be” Commentary Series, (Colorado Springs, CO: Victor, 2000), 125.

[21] Miller, 18:286–287.

[22] Henry, 1455.

[23] Pentecost.

[24] Radmacher, et. al., Da 10:18.

[25] Miller, 18:288.

[26] Wiersbe, 126–127.

06/01/2026

“Love and Liberty, Part 2” (1 Cor. 8:4–13)
Are you someone who might push your personal convictions upon others a little too strongly? This morning, consider how the Lord tells us to temper our knowledge with love.
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MANUSCRIPT:
Series: “1 Cor: Holiness from Messes” #29
Text: 1 Corinthians 8:4–13
By: Shaun Marksbury
Date: May 31, 2026
Venue: Living Water Baptist Church
Occasion: AM Service

Introduction
It’s fascinating to observe how health-conscious many people have become. In one sense, this is a net positive for society. We’ve faced a kind of pandemic known as obesity, which can shorten lives through various health complications. This stems partly from living in a prosperous society where we move less and food (both healthy and unhealthy) is abundant. I’m certainly working on exercising more and eating less, and I appreciate the videos, tips, and recommendations out there!

Yet some begin to go overboard. Health and fitness can become their entire identity, where they constantly discuss their struggles and offer unsolicited advice to others. This worsens when they add religious demands — some claim it’s sinful to be overweight, imposing their subjective standards on others’ consciences and ignoring genetics, life circumstances, or other factors. I once even read a comment suggesting one should leave a church if the pastor was obese! Certain splinter groups even forbid specific foods or drinks and demand certain fitness levels to somehow draw a person closer to God.

This is one example among many where personal convictions cross into legalism in areas the Bible does not directly address. These morally “gray” areas are known as adiaphora — the “indifferent things” of the faith — and we began considering that this past Sunday. These are not necessarily unimportant issues, but they involve incidentals of worship, daily living, family, recreation, work, holy days, and activities which God has neither commanded nor forbidden. Each believer must develop personal convictions about such matters.

The example of one such issue is in our text — the question of eating meat offered to idols. Some held strong opinions and feelings on both sides of this issue. Paul addresses those who, from one perspective, seemed more mature because they understood their liberty to eat in this area while others hesitated.

It’s possible to have the right ideas about these questions while applying them wrongly. As we continue to see the need for love to be above all else in questionable situations, we note three issues today. First, Christian love will seek knowledge about personal liberty (vv. 4–6). Second, Christian love will orient us toward others from personal liberty (vv. 7–10). Third, Christian love will consider the cause of Christ over personal liberty (vv. 11–13). Let’s consider this together:

First, Christian Love Will Seek Knowledge about Personal Liberty (vv. 4–6)
Therefore, concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Again, last time, we noted that it is important that we gain knowledge, and Paul is picking back up on the thoughts he established in v. 1. Christians are not called to deal with questionable issues by pretending they don’t exist. They also, in the name of love, shrug their shoulders at what everyone else is doing while refusing to study the issue for themselves. Ignorance isn’t a spiritual virtue, after all — knowledge just must be balanced by love of God and the brethren.

So, Paul begins with a “therefore” to establish this. He quotes the Corinthians’ slogan and supports it theologically. The “strong” believers correctly understood a Christian monotheism: idols are powerless.[1] Yet Paul will show their application lacked love.

Once again, it’s important to note that Paul isn’t excusing actual or objective idolatry, though some subjectively thought their brethren were committing that act. The “stronger” Corinthian Christians correctly knew an idol “is nothing.” The Greek can be read to say that they have no real existence[2] or power. Why? Idols are inanimate, being only stone, metal, or wood. This is why Scripture repeatedly mocks them: they cannot speak, hear, walk, help, or hinder (Psa. 115:4–7; Jer. 10). Paul and all mature Christians grasp this truth and don’t get spooked while walking by an idol, and some Christians might have used this as a slogan “to justify consuming meat sacrificed to idols.”[3]

Paul doesn’t stop there. He says they know two things: that “there is no idol in the world” and that “there is no God but one… and one Lord, Jesus Christ.” Paul alludes to the Shema of Deuteronomy 6:4 — “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!” This great statement, memorized by successive generations of Jews, affirms the oneness of God and excludes all other pretenders.

And there are demonic pretenders. Verse 5 adds nuance: “For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords...” Paul acknowledges pagan claims without endorsing them. As one study notes, “Some were outright fakes and some were manifestations of demons, but none were truly gods (Ps. 115:4–7; Acts 19:26).”[4] Paul later says there are demonic realities behind some idolatry (1 Cor. 10:20), and Daniel 10 demonstrates that there are real malevolent spirits behind world powers. Yet, these are not gods. In fact, Christ has disarmed them at the cross (Col. 2:15), so Christians need not fear the existence of the demonic.

Paul takes the Shema and applies it christologically in v. 6,[5] further emphasizing its importance. Both “Lord” and “God” from Deuteronomy 6:4 now apply (distinctly yet unitedly) to Father and Son.[6] Paul affirms strict Jewish monotheism while placing Jesus within the divine identity. This means that, while the Father is the source of all things and we live for Him, Jesus is the agent of creation and sustenance (John 1:3; Col. 1:16), and we exist because we are His new creations. The hint in these verses, though, is that this understanding demands our obedience!

Of course, the issue here is not the idols but the eating of meat sacrificed to them. This connects to the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15:20) and earlier in the letter. Paul agrees with the well-taught believers: idols are nothing, so food offered to them is not inherently defiled. Yet, we’ll soon see that isn’t the whole matter.

Still, knowledge itself matters. Christians must not ignore issues or shrug in “love” without study. Ignorance is not a virtue. Yet knowledge alone puffs up (v. 1), while love builds up. The “strong” had correct theology but needed love to guide its use, bringing us to the next point:

Second, Christian Love Will Orient Us Toward Others from Personal Liberty (vv. 7–10)
However, not all men have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat food as if it were sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. But food will not commend us to God. We neither lack if we do not eat, nor abound if we do eat. But see to it that this authority of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone sees you, who have knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will not his conscience, if he is weak, be built up to eat things sacrificed to idols?

Everyone hasn’t developed all the same convictions about issues. Now, that doesn’t mean that everyone’s opinion is equally right, but it does mean Christians should pause for a moment in humility. This is especially true if the reason someone has a different conviction is because he’s younger in the faith or perhaps overly sensitive to a particular issue. If a Christian thinks himself more mature but proceeds with his personal liberty without regard to his brother, he actually demonstrates immaturity and selfishness.

That’s why Paul begins v. 7 with a contrast. Not every believer had processed the implications of monotheism. Some, former pagans, for instance, still associated meat with idols due to lifelong habit. Their consciences remained tender and misinformed.

Thus, for them, to eat meat sacrificed to an idol meant crossing a line in their soul. As an example, we might think of the person who has strong struggles with addiction to alcohol, or who has been saved from a family that overindulged — while the correct knowledge would be that drinking isn’t a sin, that person might feel like they are participating in something unholy to drink. The “weaker” Corinthians thought the idol was real, or at least felt guilt, shame, and fear with the act of eating, like they had just committed idolatry.[7] This defilement does not occur because the food is able to defile, but the act becomes an unclean thing to them (Rom. 14:14, 22–23).

Love requires patience here. The conscience has been created by God within human beings and “is the capacity to evaluate acts or intentions as either right or wrong.”[8] Because we live in a fallen world, the conscience is touched by sin and can be wrong like anything else in us. Yet, those with true knowledge would know it is safer for their “weaker” brethren to operate according to conscience. Violating conscience risks greater spiritual harm.

In fact, consider the corrective Paul gives to the “knowledgeable” in v. 8. He says that food is spiritually neutral. The kingdom is “righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,” not in “eating or drinking” (Rom. 14:17). As one study notes, “No one is superior or inferior before God based on what food he chews and swallows (cf. Mark 7:18–19; Acts 10:9–16; Rom. 14:17).”[9] Neither asceticism nor indulgence earns favor with God. Some “strong” believers may have thought temple dining demonstrated superior spirituality, or that forcing others to eat made the “weaker” brothers more spiritual, and Paul rejects this.[10]

Then comes the warning in verse 9: “But see to it that this authority of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.” The term “authority” in this verse is most often translated “right,” meaning that they have permission to engage in this activity or the liberty to do so. Note also that he doesn’t say “ ‘so-called’ authority” like he said “so-called gods” in v. 5. In other words, the “strong” had genuine freedom in neutral matters.

Yet, liberty must serve love, not selfishness (Gal. 5:13). As one study explains, “Paul warns those who are theologically correct on the issue of eating food offered to idols not to exercise their rights in a way that harms a fellow believer who has a weak conscience on this issue (v. 9).”[11] Paul says some might become a “stumbling block,” an obstacle causing someone to fall. He doesn’t simply mean that some can get tripped up in some minor way, but that some unbelievers might never find salvation and some Christians might fall into idolatry or guilt-ridden compromise.[12]

Paul illustrates this problem in v. 10. He writes, “For if someone sees you, who have knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will not his conscience, if he is weak, be built up to eat things sacrificed to idols?” He’s likely not hypothetical here, for temple banquets were not just religious; they were also opportunities for social gatherings such as weddings, birthdays, etc.[13] A knowledgeable Christian could eat there with a clear conscience by simply not engaging in any idolatrous acts, but a weaker brother might “attach religious significance to it and become confused about allegiance to Christ.”[14] That could embolden him to eat against conscience.

Paul uses “built up” of the conscience ironically in this verse.[15] Though the word here for “building up” is almost always positive, in context, Paul intends the reader to understand this as a bad situation — perhaps because some of the “strong” Corinthians thought they were helping. It’s not that the weaker brother is gaining a stronger, more informed conscience, but that he is learning to be bolder in ignoring his conscience. Love should build up positively (8:1), but selfish liberty “builds up” the weak toward sin. The weak are, in a sense, become “puffed up,” with nothing of substance. This path leads to ruin.

Mature Christians must consider others. Different convictions exist, especially among newer or sensitive believers. Love should motivate believers to deal differently with these issues. For instance, “knowledgeable” Christians could choose private venues to eat rather than eating in public if they know some might have a problem.[16] We should care if we are causing a brother to stumble.

If we aren’t quite there, though, there’s one final point that should catch our attention:

Third, Christian Love Will Consider the Cause of Christ over Personal Liberty (vv. 11–13)
For through your knowledge he who is weak is ruined, the brother for whose sake Christ died. And in that way, by sinning against the brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again—ever, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.

Sometimes, Christians look down on other believers as unintelligent, uneducated, or even potential obstacles to be overcome. Yet, Christ sees all of us as saints, as dearly beloved brothers and sisters for whom He died. So, when we transgress against the body of Christ, we sin against Christ. As such, we need to have a different attitude toward our personal liberties, as the Apostle Paul demonstrates here.

Consider what he says in v. 11: Some are being ruined by these mature, knowledgeable Christians! The term for “ruined” can mean eternal destruction,[17] and if some who are not truly Christian sees them and stumble back into sin, that could very well be the result. In this context, though, Paul seems to be warning of severe spiritual harm for fellow believers. With a seared conscience, a person loses his ability to distinguish between right and wrong, leading to spiritual ruin and even death (cf. 1 Cor. 11:30).[18]

This is a brother because Paul emphasizes the relationship — it is a “brother for whose sake Christ died.” While this could refer to eternal destruction, the next phrase is reserved for those who are the elect. Christians cannot lose their salvation because Christ holds them in His hand, nor can their activities cause others to lose theirs. However, a kind of temporal destruction is still possible, the likely meaning here.

This is no abstract person, then. Christ’s concerns should be our preeminent concerns, and this is someone He purchased with His own blood. If Christ loved him enough to die, how can we treat him carelessly? Our knowledge must never undo what Christ accomplished. We must not tear down God’s work for food (Rom. 14:15, 20).

Verse 12 deepens the indictment. Paul writes, “And in that way, by sinning against the brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ.” By “ruining” a saint of the Lord, you transgress against the Lord Himself, just as the devil would. To the nations, Christ counts the sins against “the least of these” His brothers as sins against Himself (Matt. 25:31–46) — would we willingly want to be in that category?[19] Paul discovered this all too well on the Damascus Road (Acts 9:4–5).[20] Sinning against the church is sinning against its Head. Thus, wounding a weak conscience is serious; it’s like striking a vulnerable family member.

Paul gives another option. In v. 13, he says, “Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again — ever, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.” The double negative is emphatic. Paul would become a vegetarian permanently rather than harm a brother.

This is not absolute law but principled love. As one study notes, “He does not actually promise that he will never eat meat, but he states as strongly as possible that he would absolutely give it up forever rather than allow someone to suffer spiritual ruin by eating it.”[21] He models what he calls others to emulate.

Conclusion
Paul does not say the knowledgeable must surrender every freedom to every person who might have a complaint,[22] and he addresses the flip side of this in Romans 14. The weak brother is not a tyrant that gets to dictate the convictions of others any more than the “strong” brother should be.

Yet, the “strong” should loved and patiently teach the “weak,” recognizing the differing convictions out there. And love leads us to willingly limit liberty for others’ good at times. Let’s do so for the glory of God!
So, may God’s love guide us in addressing adiaphora, whether in entertainment, politics, health practices, Sabbaths, or holidays. Knowledge is good, but without love, it puffs up. So, may we use our liberty to build up instead of tearing down, considering Christ’s cause above our rights.

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[1] Roy E. Ciampa and Brian S. Rosner, The First Letter to the Corinthians, The Pillar New Testament Commentary, (Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2010), 379.

[2] Legacy Standard Bible, (Three Sixteen Publishing, 2022).

[3] John D. Barry, Douglas Mangum, Derek R. Brown, Michael S. Heiser, Miles Custis, Elliot Ritzema, Matthew M. Whitehead, Michael R. Grigoni, and David Bomar, Faithlife Study Bible, (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2012, 2016), 1 Co 8:4.

[4] John MacArthur Jr., Ed., The MacArthur Study Bible, electronic ed., (Nashville, TN: Word Pub., 1997), 1741.

[5] Barry, et. al, 1 Co 8:6.

[6] Ciampa and Rosner, 383.

[7] MacArthur.

[8] Roy B. Zuck, A Biblical Theology of the New Testament, electronic ed., (Chicago: Moody Press, 1994), 265.

[9] Andrew David Naselli, Romans–Galatians, 2020, X, 297.

[10] David K. Lowery, The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures, 1985, 2, 521–522.

[11] Naselli.

[12] Ciampa and Rosner, 390–391.

[13] Ibid., 391–392.

[14] F. Alan Tomlinson, CSB Study Bible: Notes, 2017, 1823.

[15] Barry, et. al., 1 Co 8:10.

[16] Ibid.

[17] J. I. Packer, Wayne Grudem, and Ajith Fernando, Eds., ESV Global Study Bible, (Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2012), 1615–1616.

[18] Lowery, 522.

[19] Barry, et. al., 1 Co 8:12.

[20] Lowery.

[21] Ciampa and Rosner, 394.

[22] Lowery.

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