10/06/2024
Peace be with you all. Recently my Israeli friend of mine Paz replied to one of my posts with the following comment, and my response to that comment follows. I am posting this because I want you all to be open minded and consider the thoughts of others who might be viewing things from a different perspective than you, and so that in hearing my response, your faith could become stronger in holding to the truth. I hope you enjoy our peaceful debate:
Paz’s Comment:
Jesus's sins:
Lying, using profanities, initiating a pagan rite in his name ergo Idolatry and paganism, changing God's law, giving false testimony and inciting quarrels among brothers. Lying - Jesus asked people not to reveal who he is, but when he got to the high priest he said he kept no secrets.
Profanities - Jesus called gentiles dogs and pigs (yeah, jews only called gentiles that) and he called people fools, and people who didn't believe he was the messiah he named children of the murderous devil, oh and by the way he knew that the jewish law states that anyone who calls people names is as guilty as if he committed murder, because he himself taught that!!
Jesus required that the eucharist which is pagan and has no basis in Judaism, will be held in his honor in his own name - so basically he demanded to be worshiped - ergo Idolatry and paganism.
Jesus changed God's law in a way that they lacked the hedges set to make them applicable in contrary to God's law. All the 'you heard it said.. but I say' are changes he made to the law. God's law can be followed, Jesus's changes made it nearly impossible to keep, making you all feel like sinners and Jesus the only one righteous enough to uphold them.
Jesus blamed the jews for the murder of all innocent blood since the time of Abel till the time of Zechariah. There weren't jews in Abel's time, not for many more generations. That is giving a false testimony.
Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace but to bring division, which he did, resulting in quarrels among the people.
There's plenty more..
He wasn't the rightful messiah, not even close. The true messiah and world peace go together hand in hand, would you like to see the prophecies about that?
Here is my response to Paz:
As an Israeli, you might recall when Benjamin Netanyahu addressed Congress in the United States a few weeks ago. His speech was kept private until the appointed time when he could deliver it to Congress and the world. Even Israelis didn't hear it beforehand. Was the Prime Minister being hypocritical for keeping the speech private until then? No! There was a specific time and place for the speech to be most effective.
Similarly, there may have been things Jesus refrained from saying because the timing wasn't right. Does that make Jesus a liar or a hypocrite? Absolutely not!
Regarding the next topic, I've explained this before, but for those who are new, I'll respond again. If someone behaves like a dog, are they acting like a dog? Yes! When Jesus refrained from healing certain people, it was because they were living lifestyles similar to dogs and pigs. If you're deathly sick and your doctor tells you to stop eating poison before giving you medicine, it's because the doctor doesn't want people to think the medicine killed the patient when it was actually the poison. First, the patient needs to stop eating the poison, then the doctor can properly administer the medicine for healing. If people continue to kill and eat pigs, chickens, cows, fish, or other animals, or continue their thefts, crimes, murders, or torturing of others, Jesus cannot heal them. Jesus cared for people but wasn't going to be the author of confusion. They need to stop living like wild animals, which likely caused the disease, and start living humanely. Then, Jesus can administer healing. In the case you're referencing, the lady acknowledged she was living like a dog, repented, and changed her lifestyle, so Jesus healed her. Please consider the whole story!
Regarding the Eucharist, I believe I addressed this in my primary message. I don't believe Jesus ever taught that bread or juice became his literal body or blood. It doesn't fit the laws of nature and needs to align with God's laws of nature for truth to be established (Romans 1:20). Paz, I feel your time would be better spent helping Christians see the practices Jesus never taught rather than trying to persuade them that Jesus isn't the Messiah. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Next, Jesus did not change the laws; rather, He clarified the true laws of God, stating that previous statements were due to the hardness of people's hearts at the time. Paz, if someone weighs 350 pounds, can they run a marathon? No! They need to start by walking and getting their weight under control. With persistence, they can eventually run a marathon. Similarly, when the Israelites left Egypt, they weren't ready for certain things, like being vegetarian or giving up "an eye for an eye." These aspects of the Torah were there because of the people's hardened hearts. Jesus came to show them the true standard and a better way of living for greater peace.
Regarding the passage blaming Jews for the blood of innocent prophets, you're taking it out of context. The people Jesus spoke to were bragging about their righteousness, claiming they wouldn't have killed the prophets. Jesus' message was that a wiser approach would be to ask God to forgive their fathers' sins and help them live better lives. Paz, if your dad had killed many people, would it be better to tell the victims' families, "I never would have killed your family member, I am perfect," or to say, "I am sorry for what my dad did. I couldn't control his actions, but I will try to live a better life and not kill anyone"? The latter approach is what Jesus was teaching.
When Jesus says He is bringing a sword, it actually brings peace. If two people are always fighting and can't get along, they are at war with each other. When they divide, peace comes. Paz, an Israeli friend of mine visited me recently. We met at Hebrew University in Jerusalem and became good friends. However, he is a secular Jew, and I am a religious Jew. Our lifestyles were very different, and we could only bear each other for about a week. This division came because our philosophies and actions didn't align. To remain good friends, we found it necessary to become divided. This is the division of the sword Jesus references. It allows those with faith and good actions to live in peace, separate from those who do not, under the great God and Creator who provides for everyone his air, water, and sunshine, and yet renders justice in time. I love my secular Israeli friend, but remaining together would lead to enmity rather than friendship.
Please consider these points, and I hope you'll gain insight from Paz's perspective while understanding why I continue to hold faith in Jesus as the Messiah. Remember, faith in Jesus means not only believing in Him but also following His teachings: loving God, treating others as yourself, and keeping God's commandments.