Pennsylvania Hare Krishna Center

10/30/2024

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1850902638180614408 TIM WALTZ PE*****LE

10/30/2024

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10/29/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_KPPJe6v7Q

This is the 3rd time I've given this presentation. The one with Croatian translation has almost 800 views, but not very many listen to the entire recording. ...

10/28/2024

October 27, 1976 : Vrindavan

Hari Sauri: Srila Prabhupada was sitting at his desk putting on his tilaka in preparation for his walk this morning when he heard the loud and melodious chanting of the Brahma samhita prayers coming from the Deity room, which is adjacent to his house. On inquiring who was responsible, he was informed by Akshayananda Swami that it was Yashodanandana Swami, who had learned the prayers and that particular melody while on tour in South India. He goes into the Deity room every day and chants the shlokas while the Deities are being dressed. Prabhupada was so pleased that he asked Yashodanandana not only to continue with it each morning, but also to train some of the gurukula boys as well.

10/27/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkadzDqkYOo

In this video Radha Mohan das explains the origins of divine and demoniac mentalities, and explains that from the beginning of this universe these attributes...

10/27/2024

12 quotes from different devotees that prove that Radhanath Swami was directly involved in the murder of Sulochana Prabhu
Why is Radhanath Swami being worshiped in ISKCON as a "saint", if he is guilty of having helped murder a devotee? WHY ISN'T THIS MAN IN PRISON??!?!??!????

1. Kuladri, New Vrindaban's chief manager, was certainly aware of the other devotees who assisted and inspired Tirtha in his mission. Kuladri indirectly implicated Radhanath when he said: "I know Tapahpunja, along with other swamis, were saying that the community had to do whatever is necessary to protect the Swami [Kirtanananda]." At this time there were only three swamis at New Vrindaban: Kirtanananda, Tapahpunja and Radhanath.

(Kuladri dasa, cited by Halasz & Halasz, court reporters, "United States of America, Plaintiff, v. CR 90-87 Keith Gordon Ham, Terry Sheldon, Steven Fitzpatrick, New Vrindaban Community, Inc., Govardhan, Inc., Cathedral of Healing, Inc., Defendants, Before: Honorable Robert R. Merhige, Jr., United States District Judge and a Jury," Day III (March 13, 1991), Martinsburg, West Virginia, 475.)

2. Kuladri claimed that Radhanath was one of the key actors in this sordid drama: "Radhanath, Hayagriva and Tapahpunja were pushing like crazy for this [murder] to happen."

(Kuladri, cited by Dharmatma, from Trial transcript, cited by Halasz & Halasz, court reporters, "United States of America, Plaintiff, v. CR 90-87 Keith Gordon Ham, Terry Sheldon, Steven Fitzpatrick, New Vrindaban Community, Inc., Govardhan, Inc., Cathedral of Healing, Inc., Defendants, Before: Honorable Robert R. Merhige, Jr., United States District Judge and a Jury," Day IV (March 14, 1991), Martinsburg, West Virginia, 832-837, 941.)

3. Dharmatma claimed that Radhanath was involved to some degree: "he [Radhanath] was involved to some degree or had knowledge of Sulochan's murder. I know this for a fact."

(Dharmatma dasa, letter to Hansadutta (August 26, 1994).)

4. Janmastami dasa, who traveled with and assisted Tirtha while conducting surveillance on Sulochan in California, explained how he was recruited to assist in the elimination of Sulochan: "In January of 1986, on my return to New Vrindaban [after the Christmas marathon], I was ordered by Radhanath . . . not by Kirtanananda Swami, to terminate Sulochan. This happened with Tapahpunja Swami and Tirtha in November and December of 1985. I was on traveling sankirtan until Christmas and didn't get back to the farm until New Years. Immediately on our arrival at New Vrindaban, Radhanath sought me out and made arrangements for us to meet in his van, where he went through a prepared speech that he had delivered to Tirtha, Tapahpunja Swami and Kuladri many times before. Later talks with Tirtha confirmed this."

(Janmastami dasa, "New Vrindaban History, for the Record", The Sampradaya Sun (December 22, 2006).

5. Radhanath flattered Janmastami: "You are one of those rare few that Krishna has endowed with the ksatriya spirit and the courage enough to do what has to be done."

(Radhanath Swami, cited by Janmastami dasa, "Chapter Seven: Knowledge of the Absolute is not Absolute Knowledge," accessed from http://www.harekrsna.org/pada/ks/nv/7.htm (November 4, 2008).)

6. Janmastami remembered in more detail:

Radhanath was saying to those he was giving marching orders to: "Sulochan poses a life threat to both Kuladri and to Kirtanananda Swami. He has written that in his diary, and for that reason alone, this guy must be transmigrated to his next body."

Radhanath was clear in his meaning beyond any shadow of a doubt. "Now that Srila Prabhupada has left us, the entire fate of this movement—OUR movement, Lord Caitanya's movement—rests in Kirtanananda Swami's hands, and according to our nature, it is up to us to do whatever we can to help the movement in that regard." . . .

Radhanath had made his pitch to at least a half a dozen sets of sympathetic ears before someone raised these Gita related questions:

"How have these impurities come upon you? They are not at all befitting a man who knows the progressive values of life."
"The words existent and non-existent refer only to spirit and matter. Why worry?"
"How can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, unborn, eternal, and immutable, kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?"

Tough questions, but from a submissive audience. Radhanath was undaunted. He quoted Krishna in his response to a potentially explosive volley of inquiry: "Everything has its proper utility, and a man situated in complete knowledge knows how and where to apply a thing, so there is no possibility of sinful reaction. Also, considering your specific duty as a ksatriya..."

That settled it. The order was there from your bona-fide spiritual authority and it was based on scripture, directly from Krishna. Either you followed those instructions or you were going to hell!

(Janmastami dasa, "Chapter 2: Contents of the Palace, Itemized," accessed from http://liberatedyogi.tripod.com.)

7. Janmastami's story was collaborated by two eyewitnesses. Bhaktipada's chauffeur confirmed: "I was privy to much behind-the-scenes action, and I was there when Radhanath told Janmastami to ‘destroy the demon.'"

(Priyavenu dasa, conversation with the author (September 14, 2003).)

8. A teenage gurukula boy who served under Janmastami also claimed he overheard Radhanath order Janmastami to "destroy the demon."

(Harivrata dasa, conversation with the author (January 9, 2007).)

9. When Ramachandra dasa, a New Vrindaban sankirtan picker, asked Radhanath Swami: "Do you know who killed Sulochan?" Radhanath replied: "I don't know, but whoever it was, he was doing devotional service to Krishna."

(Ramachandra dasa, from a conversation with the author on April 10, 2007.)

10. Dharmatma continued his recollection of the day of the murder and remembered how Kuladri named three instigators who "were pushing like crazy for this to happen."

"Later on after the morning functions, I had a discussion with Kuladri. He was quite disturbed. He mentioned . . . how it shouldn't have been done like that. And that how Radhanath, Hayagriva and Tapahpunja were pushing like crazy for this to happen, and how he had told them not to do it."

(Dharmatma, from Trial transcript, cited by Halasz & Halasz, court reporters, "United States of America, Plaintiff, v. CR 90-87 Keith Gordon Ham, Terry Sheldon, Steven Fitzpatrick, New Vrindaban Community, Inc., Govardhan, Inc., Cathedral of Healing, Inc., Defendants, Before: Honorable Robert R. Merhige, Jr., United States District Judge and a Jury," Day IV (March 14, 1991), Martinsburg, West Virginia, 832-837, 941.)

11. Janmastami collaborated: "Kuladri was VERY, VERY frightened by the time it was coming to ‘reaction time' because he knew that he and Radhanath were in very deep doo-doo."

(Janmastami, e-mail letter to the author (August 1, 2008).)

12. Although Tirtha successfully flew from California to Ohio, he was still in dire straits, New Vrindaban hadn't paid him what they promised, and he needed money to purchase plane tickets to get out of the country—fast. Dharmatma described how Bhaktipada and Radhanath came to him to pick up the escape money at the sankirtan house:

"The next day Bhaktipada, along with Radhanath, drove up in my driveway in Bhaktipada's vehicle and tooted the horn for me to come outside. When I came to the car we engaged in some small talk, I don't remember what. And then Bhaktipada asked me if I had six thousand dollars cash in the house. And I said, "I don't know. I will see if you want." He told me to go in and see if I had six thousand dollars.

I went in the house and went into my safe and . . . I counted out six thousand dollars and brought it out to him, and handed it in through the window. I don't remember if I gave it to Radhanath and he passed it to Bhaktipada, or I gave it directly to Bhaktipada. The mood was a little bit strained, and I said, "What is this? So they [Tirtha and Tapahpunja] can get out of the country?" And Bhaktipada and Radhanath smiled and nodded their heads: "Yes." And then they said, "Hey, we've got to go," and they left.

(Dharmatma, from Trial transcript, cited by Halasz & Halasz, court reporters, "United States of America, Plaintiff, v. CR 90-87 Keith Gordon Ham, Terry Sheldon, Steven Fitzpatrick, New Vrindaban Community, Inc., Govardhan, Inc., Cathedral of Healing, Inc., Defendants, Before: Honorable Robert R. Merhige, Jr., United States District Judge and a Jury," Day IV (March 14, 1991), Martinsburg, West Virginia, 832-837, 941.)

10/26/2024

https://thedailyguardian.com/israel-strikes-irans-military-targets-amid-rising-middle-east-tensions/

In a major escalation, Israel’s military launched precise strikes on Iranian military targets in response to weeks of direct and proxy attacks. With Israel’s defensive and offensive capabilities on full alert, the conflict marks a significant increase in Middle East tensions. - TheDailyGuardian

10/25/2024

Hare Kṛṣṇa Mathurapati Prabhu,
I am writing to bring to your attention an individual named Gauranga Sundar Das (Gaurav Mohnot). This is his Facebook profile: (https://www.facebook.com/gaurangasundar.das.18 )
He is the leader and president of a group known as Iskcon Inc, recently renamed as Krishna Conscious Society (KCS). Although he presents himself as a Ritvik, he is, in reality, a false guru in disguise. I have attached a video as evidence, which clearly shows his young followers offering him garlands and flowers. In the video, they are seen paying obeisances to him, singing the Sri Guru-vandana prayers as he sits and accepts these offerings as if he was Prabhupada, exploiting the devotion of his innocent disciples.
I have also attached several photos created by his disciples. How can this person be accepted as a Ritvik representative? It is evident that he seeks personal name and fame, positioning himself as a false guru and enjoying the worship intended for a bona fide spiritual master. He should be rejected by the Prabhupadanugas community and condemned.
Furthermore, there have been numerous allegations against him sexually exploiting young girls in his society. He has naked pictures of them and he has been blackmailing them if they do not provide him with gratification. If anyone dares to report him, he sends lawyer notices to their houses and these girls fearing that their parents might find out, withdraw their complaints.
They are also coerced into writing an apology, which he then displays to his other followers to falsely present himself as innocent. As a result, many victims continue to suffer in silence. The justice system in India is often weak and tends to favor those in power and he wields this wealth and power to his advantage.
He is a sexual predator who has mastered the art of recruiting new victims through social media. Over the past decade, he has continuously exploited these girls by leveraging influence to entrap them in a vicious cycle of abuse.
My humble request is for you to carefully consider the points mentioned above and expose him for his wrongdoing. I pray that no more girls fall victim to his deceit and abuse. Although we may not have evidence of his sexual misconduct at the moment due to the fear and embarrassment of the victims, it is clear that he seeks to be worshiped as a false guru, similar to the Iskcon Gurus.
He should be rejected and expelled from this sacred community of Prabhupadanugas. May Lord Narasimha protect us all from such demons in disguise as sadhus.
( i give no name of this Mataji )

10/25/2024

Srila Prabhupada discussion with leaders regarding the Bhakti process and Alice Coltrane.

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Summary of most important points.

To sell, you cannot make, adulterate gold with iron.



The thing is that you should not change abruptly without any sanction.



Offenseless, he must be properly initiated. It does not mean that he should not be initiated and chant. That is not the idea.



Not that without being initiated you'll whimsically chant, and the effect will be the same. No. You must be initiated. Ādau gurvāśrayam. You must accept a guru.



Anyone can chant, but they must know it, that "If I chant in the proper process, then it will be effective."



Prabhupāda: That is... That will be a good thing. But when he (she) does it properly it will be more effective, because there is... If one does not chant in the process, then gradually it degrades. The offense will increase. There is chance.



Prabhupāda: Yes. So, we must come to that point. In the beginning you may be very liberal: "All right, chant." We do like that, and I have done it. There is no regulation. But that does not..., that it should be neglected. He should be given affirmed, "By simply, whimsically chanting this..." No, that is not.

Hari-śauri: Niyamāgraha.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Don't make it cheap. It has got a science. It has got a form.



Rāmeśvara: And they're stating that in general, to meditate, to chant mantra, this is good, this is healthy for the mind.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. The thing is that some way or other, if you are near the fire, you'll get some heat, but there is a process how to take heat.

Rāmeśvara: Oh, yes.

Prabhupāda: That you cannot reject. "Because I am getting little heat, it is sufficient," that is sahajiyā.







Prabhupāda: Statement of account? [break]

Rāmeśvara: Statement of accounts, Hari-śauri?

Prabhupāda: No, you asked him to give report?

Rāmeśvara: Oh, you mean in Los Angeles?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Rāmeśvara: Oh, you want a statement...

Hari-śauri: We wrote to ask if you could send a statement.

Rāmeśvara: You wrote to me?

Prabhupāda: No, they sanctioned. Either you can send a copy or the original.

Rāmeśvara: Oh, yes, no problem. Also, this receipt, I wasn't sure. The artists had some meeting to plan out the paintings for Ninth Canto, Volume Three. The Second Volume is rāma-līlā and also Paraśurāma. That's already at the printer.

Prabhupāda: No picture?

Rāmeśvara: They're at the printers. When we return, they'll be printed. We left Jagannātha-sūta there to supervise the printing, and we left enough artists to start painting the Third Volume, the final volume. So, there are two paintings describing the story of Mahārāja Yayāti...

Prabhupāda: Yayāti.

Rāmeśvara: ...how he was cursed to lose his youthfulness and so on.

Prabhupāda: Śukrācārya.

Rāmeśvara: This first sketch shows Śiva and Pārvatī are passing on the road. These women were bathing, and they are running to cover themselves. And this is the beginning of the fight between the women over the clothing, and Śukrācārya's daughter was thrown into a well.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Rāmeśvara: Then because of that, Yayāti was cursed, because later on, the woman that threw her into the well, he, she became like a mistress.

Prabhupāda: Yes. They were friends. Then they became rivals. Hm. So that's all right.

Rāmeśvara: Then this is the painting showing Śukrācārya and his daughter, and they're cursing Mahārāja Yayāti. What's happening here is that...

Prabhupāda: No, Śukrācārya's cloth is why long? So?

Rāmeśvara: Too long.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Rāmeśvara: Did you catch that?

Muralīdhara: It should be below the knees or...?

Prabhupāda: Hm? Yes. This is sannyāsī cloth. Should be shorter.

Rāmeśvara: Now, what's happening here is that his face is still very youthful, but his body is becoming very old like an old man's body. Gradually, his hands are old. The only thing left is his face and his neck.

Prabhupāda: No, no.

Rāmeśvara: It is like he's being transformed.

Prabhupāda: After cursing, the body was that, but not before.

Rāmeśvara: This is like artist's license. He has just cursed him, and now his body is changing. But we wanted to show it all at the same time so that they could get the idea.

Prabhupāda: That's all right(?).

Rāmeśvara: And they have shown this taking place in the courtyard, in a courtyard of Śukrācārya's residence.

Prabhupāda: This...

Rāmeśvara: But the question is... This cloth.

Prabhupāda: Cloth should be...

Rāmeśvara: Because he was the spiritual master, would he be living in a very opulent house?

Prabhupāda: Not necessarily.

Rāmeśvara: So, is this too opulent?

Prabhupāda: No.

Rāmeśvara: They have arches and...

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Rāmeśvara: Now, there is this other question about which hand... What was his question?

Parīkṣit: Would he be cursing with the right or left hand.

Rāmeśvara: What is the point?

Prabhupāda: Right or left hand, what problem?

Muralīdhara: When they curse someone, is there a certain...

Prabhupāda: No. Right hand is all right.

Rāmeśvara: It's all right either way. Now, this painting shows... At the time of Vyāsadeva living in this cottage on the Sarasvatī River, there's a description that Śukadeva, he was in the womb, and he would not come out and Vyāsadeva went to get Kṛṣṇa. Personally Kṛṣṇa came and ordered Śukadeva to take his birth.

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Rāmeśvara: And they have got the womb area a little effulgent to indicate the presence of Śukadeva being a pure...

Prabhupāda: Overgrown.

Rāmeśvara: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Rāmeśvara: Well, it will be overgrown, but they also want it to be effulgent.

Prabhupāda: Not overgrown. This is all right.

Rāmeśvara: Oh. Then there are many descriptions of Lord Kṛṣṇa in this volume, so they have painted this painting of Lord Kṛṣṇa. There is especially a description describing the beauty of His face and His lotus feet and His whole bodily beauty, carrying the flute.

Prabhupāda: Very nice. It is all right. Now you have become expert, painting Kṛṣṇa so many years.

Rāmeśvara: 'Cause we feel that there's never a limit how beautiful Kṛṣṇa can be painted.

Prabhupāda: (chuckling) Yes, unlimited.

Rāmeśvara: Now, also there are many descriptions, or there are several descriptions in this verse, of the Lord's expansion as Paramātmā within the heart of every living entity and also within each atom. Now, a few years ago Bharadvāja drew this picture for Back to Godhead. We were thinking to make a painting similar to this showing that Viṣṇu is within the atom. And this will be used not only in this book, but also, we were thinking to use this on the cover of Life Comes from Life.

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Rāmeśvara: We can show these atomic rings?

Prabhupāda: Hm.

Rāmeśvara: Cause the scientists, when they draw pictures of the atom, they show these rings.

Prabhupāda: That's all right. Hm.

Rāmeśvara: Now, this picture, this shows the story of King Rantideva's renunciation. He was fasting for so long, and these different personalities were coming.

Prabhupāda: And he was distributing.

Rāmeśvara: They had to give up his food. But actually, it said that these personalities were actually Lord Śiva and Lord Brahmā, testing him. So, they've shown... How was it shown?

Muralīdhara: He's semi-transparent, so you get the idea that he's there and not there at the same time.

Prabhupāda: Backside.

Muralīdhara: Right behind the...

Hari-śauri: Both of these two figures are the same person. It's just to show that he's actually Lord Śiva, but he's appearing as a beggar.

Muralīdhara: His whole body will show...

Hari-śauri: So, he's like a semi-transparent Lord Śiva.

Prabhupāda: That's all right.

Rāmeśvara: Now, at the time he was taking this prasāda, would he be sitting in his palace room on his throne or...? We were thinking that in his dining room.

Prabhupāda: No, dining room.

Rāmeśvara: There should be a dining room. Then the last painting for the volume is from the twenty-fourth chapter, just the last few verses describing the appearance of Kṛṣṇa. It describes...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Rāmeśvara: ...how Kṛṣṇa and the cowherd boys would enter the forest, and the gopīs would be thinking that Kṛṣṇa's feet are walking on hard rocks. So, this is just a very simple sketch to show the idea. They're entering the forest, and the gopīs are standing by the houses, watching.

Prabhupāda: That's nice.

Rāmeśvara: We have a plan to increase the number of paintings, starting with the Tenth Canto, because many more artists have been coming, and some of them are becoming qualified to paint for the books. The standard right now is there's a picture of Your Divine Grace and seven paintings. So, we want to increase it to a picture of Your Divine Grace and eleven paintings.

Prabhupāda: You can... If you want to increase picture, you can take important words... Just like the verse nivṛtta-tarṣair upagīyamānāt: "One who has no more material hankering..." Paint it in picture. Nivṛtta-tarṣaiḥ, no more hankering for anything material. And there is word, dharma-śīla, "religious." What is that religion? One who has surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, he is religious. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam [Bg. 18.66]. He is religious. Ordinary religious, they are not religious. In this way you depict one picture, one word. This can be...

Brahmānanda: Is that the first chapter?

Prabhupāda: Paśu-ghna. Paśu-ghna, the animal-killer.

Rāmeśvara: If we increase the number of pictures, the cost of the book to us will be an additional, between five cents and ten cents, but in exchange for that cost increase, more paintings.

Prabhupāda: That is your consideration. But if you are going to add nice pictures, these words can be explained.

Rāmeśvara: Yes. Also, because in the Tenth Canto there are so many descriptions of Kṛṣṇa's activities, so Kṛṣṇa has sent more artists.

Prabhupāda: Now, I'll give description of the word, so you can utilize it for...

Rāmeśvara: (aside:) Do you understand?

Rādhā-vallabha: Like there may be description of someone that's fully surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, has no material desires. You have to figure out a way to illustrate it.

Rāmeśvara: Just like last month you showed me that calendar of how they have illustrated every verse of the Bhagavad-gītā. So, they have a way of finding... Artists...

Prabhupāda: They're selling?

Rāmeśvara: That calendar that you showed me? When you were in Bhuvaneśvara you gave me one calendar, and it had illustrations of Bhagavad-gītā.

Prabhupāda: Ha, ha, yes.

Brahmānanda: It had one for every verse?

Rāmeśvara: Yes. Prabhupāda said one day we should do that, picture for every verse.

Brahmānanda: Very good picture or simple?

Prabhupāda: Very good.

Rāmeśvara: I gave you that calendar? So they're illustrating philosophic points like that.

Prabhupāda: Hmm. Left eye. (about massage?) (some quiet laughter)

Rāmeśvara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, for this GBC meeting, I understand one of topics will be to discuss some things about Back to Godhead. So, I wasn't here when you gave your instructions. So, I was wondering if you could give me some idea what you want done, so I can also think about how to improve the magazine. Something is wrong in the magazine?

Prabhupāda: That...

Rāmeśvara: A few things in this last issue.

Prabhupāda: The thing is that you should not change abruptly without any sanction. (?)

Rāmeśvara: In the past I have sometimes asked you that we wanted to try to follow your example when you were first writing Back to Godhead, offering solutions to problems that people are currently bothered by, making the magazine contemporary and so on, rather than just giving them philosophy, but making it so that it can relate to their...

Prabhupāda: But we... Based on philosophy. You cannot go beyond the philosophy. Philosophy must be there. It cannot be changed. But we have to... You cannot change the wine. That should be the... So therefore, while changing, you can consult.

Rāmeśvara: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That will be...

Rāmeśvara: Now, there has been a tendency that I have observed among the writers to try to use what they call outside information sources, like quoting scientists...

Prabhupāda: That, one cannot do it unless he is very expert in transcendental knowledge. This is not possible for kaniṣṭha-adhikārī.

Rāmeśvara: It's difficult to do.

Prabhupāda: Yes. He must be very expert. Therefore, I want...

Rāmeśvara: Satsvarūpa.

Prabhupāda: Guidance.

Rāmeśvara: But the principle is all right if it is done properly.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Rāmeśvara: Because I have found that when these so-called authorities...

Prabhupāda: In my old Back to Godhead, I discussed Gandhi, Churchill, Jhinna, but with reference to the philosophy. I criticized them on the basis of our philosophy.

Rāmeśvara: For example, Rūpānuga just wrote one article which we published, and in this article, he was describing some
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10/25/2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbLUMTtzImA

10/24/2024

“WAS THE INITIATION QUEUE HELD UP UNTIL AFTER SRILA PRABHUPADA LEFT? -We found online a rudimentary study that was made from the Srila Prabhupada Disciples Database. It appears elementary, but gives some interesting insights and raises questions. A count of only 234 devotees came up as being initiated from July 1977 until Srila Prabhupada’s departure on Nov. 14. It showed that Kirtanananda had only initiated 4 devotees, but we found in Hari Sauri’s unpublished diary that he had brought an $8000 dakshina from new initiates who gave $111 each, and that would be about 70 initiates. So there is that miscalculation to the database study. But overall there were surprisingly few initiations by Srila Prabhupada’s ritvik representatives between July and Nov. 1977, especially considering that there was a “backlog” and a “stack of initiation letters,” meaning a long queue of devotees wanting to take initiation as of early July. Tamal told this to Srila Prabhupada on tape. Initiations were held up starting from at least May of 1977. We estimate that there were 1500 initiations waiting on Tamal’s desk or ready at the temples from May to Nov. 1977, and if only about 300 were done by ritviks before Srila Prabhupada departed, that would mean maybe 1200 persons could and should have been initiated by Srila Prabhupada but were not. Why?
We also know from anecdotal evidence that in 1978 there were THOUSANDS of new initiations by the zonal acharyas, and that very many of them had been waiting up to a year or more. Many have wondered why these devotees had to wait until 1978 when the clear opportunity was there to take initiation from Srila Prabhupada via his ritvik representatives from July to Nov. 1977? Was the queue of aspiring Srila Prabhupada initiates deliberately held up so that they would then have to become disciples of the new zonal acharyas? There are a number of testimonial evidences that many devotees had waited over a year to get initiated, and finally were initiated by one of the new gurus in 1978. This strongly indicates that many of the eleven ritvik representatives deliberately avoided giving initiations on behalf of Srila Prabhupada in 1977 because they knew those devotees would then become their disciples instead. Kirtanananda was an exception with the 70 he initiated for Srila Prabhupada between late July and early October (just 10 weeks). This study showed that Satsvarupa had only initiated 2 devotees in those four months before Srila Prabhupada’s departure (July-Nov). He had a huge zone in the USA. Did he hold up the queue to get more disciples for himself? We also note that only two weeks after Nov. 14, Satsvarupa had already sent out a 3 page, meticulously developed and well-thought out letter in his zone elucidating on his becoming an initiating spiritual master, which hinted at his initiations plan-making well before Nov. 14. It is likely that many of the eleven did actually stall so that they could then initiate more disciples for themselves. Those that would poison Srila Prabhupada or plan a gurujacking of the movement would certainly be capable of holding up the initiation queue as well.
VVR #13, June 1990, p.20: “...a good number of devotees in Italy were waiting to get initiation from Srila Prabhupada in 1977. On July 9, 1977, the ritvik-initiations letter was [supposedly] sent out to all temple presidents... [But they] never saw the letter and were never informed they could be initiated by Srila Prabhupada through the ritvik process, and thus they were forced to wait and be initiated by Bhagavan.” (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 1.540)

On Oct 23, 2024, at 8:26 AM, Joseph Walsh wrote:

“CHAPTER 190: THE LAST WILL (Cont.) -LAST WILL IS EVIDENCE SUPPORTING JULY 9 ORDER (3) In point #3 of the Will, each ISKCON property in India was entrusted to 3 executive directors and the names of the properties and their executive directors were listed. Then the Will says this:
“The executive directors who have herein been designated are appointed for life. In the event of the death or failure to act for any reason of any of the said directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the remaining directors, provided the new director is my initiated disciple following strictly all the rules and regulations of the International Society for Kṛṣṇa Consciousness as detailed in my books, and provided that there are never less than three (3) or more than five (5) executive directors acting at one time.”
When the draft of the Will was being read out by Giriraja Swami, June 2, 1977, to Srila Prabhupada, it stated “an initiated disciple,” but in the final document it has been changed to “my initiated disciple.” Obviously Srila Prabhupada wanted this exact change, indicating very clearly that in his movement’s future only his initiated disciples should be property trustees. But if there are no more disciples being initiated by Srila Prabhupada after 1977, how will this be possible? Perhaps by 2060 all pre-1978 Srila Prabhupada disciples will have passed away. Who will be the directors of these properties then? The deduction is that all the future disciples of this movement are Srila Prabhupada’s disciples, initiated through the system set up by Srila Prabhupada himself. The GBC and Ravindra Svarup scoff at this idea, saying this interpretation is too literal and meaningless. We think not. While not conclusive in itself, it is definitely strong supporting evidence in the whole picture. The Final Will is consistent with the July 9, 1977 Directive and the May 28, 1977 conversation.
We note that the function of a Will is to ensure that after one passes away, one’s desires and wishes are carried out, and thus they are always very carefully worded to avoid ambiguity and to preempt those who will deceitfully try to contradict the intent and meaning of the Will. Srila Prabhupada wanted ISKCON to continue indefinitely after he and all his directly initiated disciples left their bodies. How can this happen if there are no more initiations by Srila Prabhupada? His Will clearly indicates his own system of initiations and how he was willing to, and would, retain his position as the diksha guru of ISKCON even after his physical departure from this world. We note the Will was concealed, unavailable to devotees many years after 1977 and also there are missing tapes of important conversations with Srila Prabhupada, such as July 6-7, 1977, missing letters, documents: see Ch. 63, 64, 84, 85. (Srila Prabhupada’s Hidden Glories 2.726)