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Story of Redemption page 381 – “Those who had accepted the light concerning the mediation of Christ and the perpetuity of the law of God, found that these were the truths brought to view in the third message. The angel declares, "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Revelation 14:12. This statement is preceded by a solemn and fearful warning: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation." Revelation 14:9, 10…”
It seems that it is not definitely stated concerning the mediation of Jesus Christ in the heavenly sanctuary, But that is the spiritual side because in Rev. 14:12…
And that statement the faith of Jesus is pointing to Christ mediatorial work in the heavenly sanctuary. Now, the Bible declared clearly in Rev. 13:8…
Revelation 13:8: And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
The statement is inscribed in future tense, “shall” worship him. Who are they? Whose names are not written in the book of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Here the Bible teaches that once your name will not be found written in the Lamb’s book of life you cannot escape to worship him, you “shall” worship him.
The pronoun him is pointing to the devil. And that is why it is called “Demon Worship” or “Terrible sin”
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 page 214 – “The prophecy of Rev. 13:3, "And the world wondered after the beast," reveals a great apostasy…”
So, Rev. 13: 3 the shepherd’s rod made it so plain it reveals a great apostasy, the shepherd’s Rod plainly told us, in 2 SR 221…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 221 – “We have stated before that the book of Revelation is a revealing of prophecies, and not a prophecy of itself. Therefore, we find the prediction of this glorious event in Joel 2:28, 29…”
So, the book of Revelation is a revealing of the prophecy already recorded in the Old Testament, and it is not the prophecy of itself.
Now concerning the great apostasy in the Old Testament. It was recorded first in Isa. 4:1, Isa. 59:19, Isa.63:5, and Micah 7:5. Those are the prophetic verse predicting that tremendous event “the great apostasy”
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 pages 219, 220 – “To the prophet Isaiah, this great apostasy, fostered by blind spiritual guides, was revealed, which he describes in the following scriptures: "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: Therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him." Isa. 59:16. "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: Therefore, mine own arm brought salvation unto me, and my fury, it upheld me." Isa. 63:5. Micah, looking forward to this wholesale deception, says: "Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide." Micah 7:5.”
So here the Shepherd’s Rod also called such great apostasy as wholesale deception.
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 153 – “The time of that wholesale deception is at hand. It will take more than great knowledge of theology to escape the most powerful trap his Satanic majesty has ever devised. The wonderful miracles will be convincing and the apparently genuine spirit of worship will bring deep conviction upon those who are subject to be misled.
Indication that such predicted event did not as yet fulfill in the days of VTH but he is plainly saying that, that wholesale deception is at hand, or coming very soon. Who are they by which they are subject to be misled? That is, the answer of Rev, 13:8 that once your name will not be found written in the Lamb’s book of life then you placed yourself subject to be misled. You shall worship him that is the verse in Rev. 13:8. To repeat again, the SROD declared in 2 SR 116…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 116 – “The names of some who once appeared in it were blotted out, while the names of others were never entered between its pages.”
In that reading, there are two classes of the wicked, those who will not be saved, the wicked by which their name had been inscribe in the Lamb’s book of life but later on their names had been blotted out, but there are some of the wicked that their names never entered into the pages of the Lamb’s book of life. Now let us focus first to those names by which their names had been entered into the pages of the Lamb’s book of life but later on it was blotted out. And we will be focusing to the congregation among the living. Let us read again 3 TR 20…
Tract No. 3 page 20 – “For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands,
which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us." Heb. 9:24. Indeed, "now once in the end of the world hath He appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Heb. 9:26, 27) -- the cleansing of the sanctuary (Dan. 8:14).”
“Plainly, therefore, the judgment is to begin and the sanctuary to be cleansed, not before, but after the fulfillment of the period for those appointed to die. The judging being consistent with the records found in the books of heaven, the names, therefore, of those who are found unworthy, without the "wedding garment" on, are blotted from the books. Thus is the sanctuary cleansed. Speaking of the commencement of this work of judging and cleansing, the angel said unto Daniel: "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Dan. 8:14.”
So, the shepherd’s Rod is very plain that the sanctuary can never be cleansed not until after the fulfillment of the period for those appointed to die, that statement, “appointed to die” is pointing to the saints by which their cases were in proceeding in the heavenly sanctuary while they were still alive, because it is illogical and impalpable inconsistency to say “appointed to die” when they were already dead. So that statement in Heb. 9 appointed to die as explained by the shepherd’s rod in 3 TR 20, that after the period of those saints appointed to die their proceedings were completely finish then that is the time that sanctuary is cleansed, according to 3 TR 20. Now I would like to read 2 SR 217…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 217 – “They who are to be sealed at that time were seen by John as a great multitude with palms in their hands. (See Rev. 7:9.) Hence the scroll has made a turn, and the sealing for those who shall be judged while living, has begun…”
Now I would like to go back to 6T 17…
Testimonies For The Church Vol. 6 page 17 – “The light we have received upon the third angel's message is the true light. The mark of the beast is exactly what it has been proclaimed to be. Not all in regard to this matter is yet understood, nor will it be understood until the unrolling of the scroll…”
The same statement in 1 SR 214…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 page 214 – “We must not be surprised if we should see that we have not heretofore fully understood the true meaning of the healing process. We repeat the definition of the verbs, being in the past tense: "as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." It is evident that Inspiration foresaw that it would not be clearly understood until the divine prediction is fulfilled. The Spirit of Prophecy bears witness to this, by saying, "The mark of the beast is exactly what it has been proclaimed to be. Not all in regard to this matter is yet understood, nor will it be understood until the unrolling of the scroll." Volume 6, page 17. If the scroll has made a turn, then only may we expect the truth to unmask the scripture.”
Now the question, when does the unrolling of the scroll, the divinely appointed time by which the entire message of the 3rd angel will be completely unfolded, according to the voice of inspiration?
We already read in 2 SR 217, it is during the period of the proceedings to those who are appointed to die, to those who will be judge in the heavenly sanctuary while living. Now I would like to rad 2 162…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 162 – “The cases of all who are sealed from 1929 to the final close of probation will be investigated before the throne in the heavenly sanctuary while living…”
So, from 1929 to the last constituent of the altar which is the 6th seal, and to repeat again the altar recorded in Rev. 11:1 is pointing to the 6th seal and divided into 2 classes, Isa. 57:1 and Rev. 14:13. Isaiah 57:1 is those died in natural death, and they are those that had been lay down to their grave prior to the evil time. The evil time… let us read 12 TR…
Tract No. 12 page 50 – “Although our first question should be, "What shall we do to avoid giving allegiance to the enemies of God, so as to be found worthy of a place in His kingdom when this evil time shall come?...”
Page 28 – “A full realization of the glorious reward that awaits mankind will even now compel men to shout for joy! And a like realization of the dreadful penalty that awaits all who fail to make God their refuge, will cause them even now to weep and gnash their teeth. That all might realistically see these alternative prospects, and be impelled thereby to repentance, the Lord has been at supreme pains not only to record a graphic description of the evil which, through the instrumentality of the beast Satan has determined upon the whole world, but also aforehand to make of a similar evil, a perfect Type of "The Image of the Beast."
So, to repeat again, Isa. 57:1 the first constituent of the altar from 1844 all of them who died faithfully under the message of the 3rd angel on its primary phase, judgment that pertains to the dead, they are those who died prior to the image of the beast the evil time.
But Rev. 14:13, they are those who will die during the loud cry proclamation to the great multitude which is called the great harvest.
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 173 – “Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them." (Rev. 14:13.) "Which die from henceforth," that is, from the commencement of the "loud cry." Thus the word declares that some of the saints will be laid in the grave even during the time of the harvest (loud cry). We quote from "Counsels on Health," p. 375 "Many will be laid away to sleep before the fiery ordeal of the time of trouble shall come upon the world.”
So, this loud cry proclamation is before the commencement of the time of trouble according to this reading, and during that time there are still saints to die. And according to that reading they are those recorded in Rev. 14:13. By which the word henceforth in Rev. 14:13, according to 1 SR 219…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 page 219 – “And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth." Note that after the sealing of the 144,000 there would be some who would die in the Lord (saved), for the scripture reads "from henceforth," meaning from the time this company was sealed.”
The statement says, this company was sealed plainly indicating that at that time, the 144,000 living saints were already sealed as a body because that is what it means by the word “company,” because the sealing of the 144,000 is divided into 2 sections. First, sealing as individual, and then sealed as a body. But at that time when Rev. 14:13 is fulfilled the 144,000 living saints they were already sealed as a body. That is very plain in 1 SR 219.
And according to 2 SR 173 that is prior to the commencement of the Time of Trouble because in the vison of Sis. White in Counsels on Health 375 clearly declared that all the saints who cannot undergo the fiery ordeal of the time of trouble, they will be laid down to sleep prior to that event the commencement of the little time of trouble. Or in other words, the balance meaning the remaining sabbath keepers, at the commencement of the time of trouble according to 1 SR 219…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 173 – “We quote from "Counsels on Health," p. 375 "Many will be laid away to sleep before the fiery ordeal of the time of trouble shall come upon the world.”
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 page 219 – “Those who cannot undergo the trial are laid in their graves, while 144,000 remain and will escape, but the balance in the church (now) shall perish in the ruin. May God help His people.”
So, the only saints that will remain at the commencement of the little time of trouble are the living saints the saints that are no longer to taste death. Or in other words, all the saints that will be resurrected they had been lay down to sleep prior to the commencement of the little time of trouble. Because God already saw beforehand that they cannot undergo the fiery ordeal of the little time of trouble, and in order to save them God mercifully laid them down to sleep.
Now, since according to our reading that revelation 14:13 will be fulfilled during the proclamation of the message to the great multitude, to the constituent of the Great multitude by which the shepherd’s rod is very plain in 5 TR 110, 111…
Tract No. 5 pages 110, 111 – “The "court," in other words, is symbolical of the immeasurable (innumberable) harvest of second fruits brought in after the measurable (numerable) harvest of first fruits -- the 144,000. It is not measured (investigated), because it represents those among whom there are no "bad" to be cast out; for they are gathered in after the cleansing of the heavenly temple (Dan. 8:14) -- after the judgment of the dead -- after the separation of "the bad" from among "the good" in the church, as illustrated by the parable of the net (Matt. 13:47, 48). They are those who by name, "My people" (Rev. 18:4), are called to come out of Babylon, and who, with no unclean among them (Isa. 52:1), come into the already purified and living church of God. (For more extensive treatment of the subject of the investigative judgment, see our Tract No. 3, The Harvest, third edition.)”
So, the shepherd’s rod is very plain that at the time when the message will be proclaim to the constituent of the great multitude in Rev. 7:9 it is after the cleansing of the heavenly temple, after the judgment of the dead, after the separation of the bad from among the good.
Now, the voice of inspiration declared clearly that during that proclamation of the message to the great multitude, which is called the harvest, the loud cry, there still saints to die but at that time the judgment of the dead was already finish in the heavenly sanctuary. Therefore, there is no escaping of the conclusion that the saints appointed to die by which their cases were investigated in the heavenly sanctuary while they were still alive must be the constituent of Rev. 14:13.
Because according to 2 SR 173, they will die during the period of the loud cry of the 3rd angel’s message to the great multitude by which at that time the judgment of the dead is already finish so the last proceeding in the heavenly sanctuary concerning the dead is Rev. 14:13 by which their proceeding will be considered in the heavenly sanctuary “while they were still alive.”
And according to 3 TR 20, that the cleansing of the sanctuary could not be before the proceeding of those who are appointed to die neither during but after the proceeding of those who are appointed to die.
Now concerning the cleansing of the sanctuary, the last proceeding to be considered in the heavenly sanctuary is the congregation among the living. And to repeat again, the cleansing of the sanctuary is pointing to blotting out of names, not to the blotting out of sins.
Why? I would like to build it firmly and concretely. First, I would like to read to you 1 TG 17:4…
Timely Greetings Vol. 1 No. 17 page 4 – “Plainly, then, the "latter rain" is miracle-working Truth that causes the saints to mature for the harvest of which the 144,000 are the first fruits (Rev. 14:4). Then, in order to quickly gather the second fruits, God pours His Spirit upon every first fruit saint, (upon "every one grass") old or young, boy or girl -- not upon one here and upon another there.”
The shepherd’s rod made it so plain that in order to quickly gather the second fruits God poured out His Spirit upon the 144,000 and we called it the Pentecostal power. For what purpose? To gather the second fruits.
Tract No. 3 Supplement Edition page 75 – “Comparison Of The Two Pentecosts
“The comparisons of the two Pentecosts are perfect, the firstfruits only of both being numbered -- 120 in the one and 144,000 in the other. The innumerable company that was brought into the church after the Pentecost foreshadowed the "great multitude" of the final harvest, "which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues." (Rev. 7:9.)” “The typical wave-loaves, which signified the completion of the firstfruit harvest (Lev. 23:17), were baken with leaven to symbolize that the sins were not blotted out at the time the "servants of our God" were sealed. Hence the investigative judgment for the living (blotting out the sins) will begin after the sealing of the 144,000 (the spiritual wave-loaves), and after the outpouring of the Spirit. The "leaven" may have a still deeper meaning.”
Ponder deeply brothers and sister the voice of inspiration plainly says that when the Holy Ghost, the Pentecostal power had been poured put to the 144,000 living saints to gather the second fruits at that time their sins in the heavenly sanctuary in the Most Holy place were not yet blotted out. How much more to the great multitude?
But the voice of inspiration says that when the message goes to the great multitude, when? When does the message will go to the great multitude which no man could number? After the outpouring of the Pentecostal power to the 144,000 living saints. In order to quickly gather the second fruits, but at the time during the Pentecostal power, when the message goes to the great multitude which no man could number, what is the statement in 5 TR 110, 111? It is after the cleansing of the cleansing of the heavenly temple. Or in other words, at the Pentecostal power poured out to the 144,000 living saints the message is proclaimed to the great multitude the second fruits at that time the heavenly temple is completely cleansed, but at that time the sins of the 144,000 living saints are not yet botted out. Therefore, the cleansing of the heavenly temple does not pertain to the blotting out of sins but rather the blotting out of names, because if the cleansing of the heavenly temple is blotting out of sins, then it must be after all the great multitude their sins must blotted out. And do you think that after all the sins of the great multitude blotted out then that is the commencement of the loud cry of the great multitude? Because the loud cry of the great multitude is after the cleansing of the heavenly temple not only after the cleansing of the heavenly temple but after the judgment of the dead.
So that is very plain brothers and sister, to repeat again, the cleansing of the temple in the heavenly sanctuary is blotting out of names.
Now, I would like to read again the statement in 3 TG 50, 51…
Tract No. 3 pages 50, 51 – “As the cleansing of the heavenly sanctuary is a work of cleansing the books by blotting from them the names of both the backsliders and the tares, and as at the "time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation," the only ones who "shall be delivered" are those whose names are found written in the book, the cleansing of the books, therefore, obviously takes place before the resurrection, and before the time of trouble such as never was. Thus the unfaithful dead will be left in their graves at the first resurrection, and the unfaithful living will be left without deliverance from the coming trouble. But were their names allowed to remain in the books, then according to the records either the wicked dead would have to be resurrected with the righteous, and the living wicked delivered with the living righteous or else both the righteous dead and the righteous living would have to be forsaken with them -- alternatives both of which, of course, are impossible; thus again making mandatory an absolute separation, as instanced in type in Joshua's time:”
The focal point in that reading is Dan. 12:1, and Dan. 12:1 is a continuation of Dan. 11:45 do not forget that. And according to 3 TR 50, 51, if the names of the wicked will be allowed to remain in the Lamb’s book of life at the time when Michael shall stand up, then since God cannot deny Himself as the record declared that all the names found written in the Lamb’s book of life will be delivered, then God will be obliged to deliver the wicked which is impossible, and that is the reason why the books, the Lamb’s book all the names of the wicked must be blotted out first before the fulfillment of Dan. 12: 1.
Now, when does Dan. 12:1 commence its fulfillment? Dan. 12:1 is very broad subject. But first of all, we should not however forget that according to 5 TR 110, 111 “that when the message will be proclaimed to the great multitude which no man could number, in that time, in that period of time the cleansing of the heavenly temple is finished, the proceedings in the of the judgment that pertains to the dead is finished, and the separation of the bad among the good is already finish. So, we need to ever remember that 3 things: 1. After the cleansing of the heavenly temple, 2. After the judgment of the dead, 3. After the separation of the bad among the good. Then the message begun to be proclaimed to the great multitude which no man could number.
Now let us go back again to the cleansing because that is the very first one mention in 5 TR 110, 111. After the cleansing of the heavenly temple. Now, when does the cleansing of the heavenly temple will be finish? 3 TR 20, after the proceedings of those who are appointed to die, then we can easily understand, what proceedings? that is the proceedings in the Most Holy Place.
Now I would like to show to you a very simple illustration. the last proceeding in the Holy place must be the congregation among the living, because the proceeding in the Holy place is divided only in 2 Section. Judgment for the dead, and when the judgment for the dead is finish, then commence the Judgment for the living. And the shepherd’s rod is very plain in 2 R 164…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 164 – “Unless the close of the judgment for the dead and the commencement for the living be made known to us, we would have no present truth while the judgment for the living is in session…”
What will happen if the Judgement of the living is in session and we do not obtain the present truth? Think it thoroughly, it cannot be possible that the judgment for the living will begins without present truth, the voice of inspiration says in 11 SC 3:5…
The Symbolic Code Vol. 11 No. 3 page 5 – “Present Truth comes only from God. Man does not know the seasons…”
Now, for example the season of the period of the judgment for the living only God knows and accordingly in 2 SR 164…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 164 – “But when our High Priest shall begin the atonement for the living, there must be a message of present truth…”
That is living assurance that Jesus Christ our High Priest will not begin the proceedings that pertains to the living without sending first present truth because present truth comes only from God and only God knows when present truth to be revealed. All the saints of God in all ages, meaning without exception, and the last age is the generation that will no longer to taste death…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 1 page 28 – “According to these scriptures which are plainly stated, we must conclude that the saints of God are sealed with present truth in all ages, and whatever that present truth is, that is the seal…”
The present truth under the seventh seal was not bestowed by God to VTH because the present truth under the 7th seal is concerning the living according to 2 SR 202.
God knoweth the VTH will die, and secondly the positive proof that such movement God bestowed unto them the present truth because God entrusted the knowledge when the judgment of the dead closed and when judgment for the living begins, this statement is not difficult to understand, the word “unless” I think synonymous to the word “Except.”
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 164 – “Unless the close of the judgment for the dead and the commencement for the living be made known to us, we would have no present truth while the judgment for the living is in session…”
And if we have no present truth then there is no possibility that we could receive the seal of the living God. If we could not receive the seal of the living God. What will happen”? Our names will be blotted out and that blotting out of names must be fulfilled prior to the time when the trouble begins and the very first trouble begins is the Great Tribulation in Rev. 7: 14, the evil time, ponder deeply brothers and sisters…
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 164 – “While the investigation for the congregation of the dead is in progress, there can be no separation among the congregation of the living…”
Or in other words, while the investigation of the congregation of the dead still unfinish there can be no separation among the congregation among the living. This reading, I would like to illustrate it to you…
Oct. 10, 2021 in Gregorian that is April 1 2020. This is the last day of atonement that pertains to the dead in the holy place, blotting out of names last day of atonement blotting out of names. Blotting out of names completely ended in April 1, 2020. And onwards, this is the commencement, commencement of the judgment for the living, judgment for the living. The blotting out of names among the congregation of the living must be in Oct. 10, 2022 in Gregorian Calendar, that is March 27, 2021.
So, this is the last Day of atonement of blotting out of names, after this day of atonement the sanctuary is cleansed. But according to our reading, brothers and sisters, there can be no separation among the congregation of the living because the separation will take place in Oct. 10, 2022 or March 27, 2021 while proceedings in the judgment of the dead in the Most Holy place still in progress and that Rev. 14: 13…
Therefore, the proceedings of Rev. 14:13, in the Most Holy Place commence in April 1, 2020 and it is still in progress, and then it will be finished on Oct. 10, 2022 all the sins of Rev. 14: 13 the righteous will be botted out and then the separation among the congregation of the living begins. There can be no separation of the congregation that pertains to the living while the proceedings of the judgment of the dead blotting out of sins in the heavenly sanctuary is still in progress.
Now, we are now in the commencement of the judgment for the living by which the admonition given by the shepherd’s rod “Come to the sanctuary confess and secure your life”
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 219 – “While the judgment for the living is in progress, every sin must be confessed and put away. He who would neglect this great privilege…”
¬Would you think the judgment for the living that pertains to the church, the first fruits, will not commence after the slaughtering? The commencement of that judgment for the living is after that slaughtering and that is the time to confess and put away all our sins? How illogical.
Bible Commentary Vol. 4 page 1139 – “The vision given to Isaiah represents the condition of God's people in the last days. They are privileged to see by faith the work that is going forward in the heavenly sanctuary…”
What a high privilege was given unto us but if you will neglect this great privilege will find himself involve in everlasting ruin plainly indicating that the judgment for the living that pertains to the church precedes the everlasting ruin. Because those people who neglect those privilege to know that the judgement for the living is in session, in progress and if you would neglect this great privilege will find himself on an everlasting ruin, cut off from among His people ignoring this most vital subject will not profit us in the least.
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 219 – “He who would neglect this great privilege, will find himself involved in everlasting ruin -- cut off from among His people. Ignoring this most vital subject would not profit us in the least.”
The statement in the Shepherd’s Rod “Cut off” is applied to the day of slaughter, but it is even more applied to the Day of atonement the word cut of is applied to the blotting out of names.
The Shepherd’s Rod Vol. 2 page 171 – “The sealing of the 144,000 is at the closing of the judgment of the dead, and at the beginning of the judgment of the living…”
Tract No. 3 Supplement Edition page 76 – “Now to prove that Sister White's writings are in perfect harmony with the testimonies of the prophets, we quote from "The Great Controversy," p. 425, showing that the purification of the church took place while the investigative judgment of the dead was going on, and just before the commencement of the "Loud Cry of the Third Angel's Message" -- the harvest: "While the investigative judgment is going forward in heaven, while the sins of penitent believers are being removed from the sanctuary, there is to be a special work of purification, of putting away of sin, among God's people upon earth....Then the church which our Lord at His coming is to receive to Himself will be 'a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing.' Then she will look forth 'as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners.' " "She is to go forth into all the world, conquering and to conquer." -- Prophets and Kings, p. 725.”
Now, let us applied that statement in 6T, what is going on in heaven, and what is going on, on earth? Let us read 6T 404
Testimonies For The Church Vol. 6 page 404 – “Brethren, to whom the truths of God's word have been opened, what part will you act in the closing scenes of this world's history? Are you awake to these solemn realities? Do you realize the grand work of preparation that is going on in heaven and on earth?...”
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